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Why are there so many Snake Oil in this business?
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Noske
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A few years ago I watched with interest a forum on amplifier fuses. Many came in lovely colours and were offered for three or four digit dollars.
In the meantime I am happy with a a bunch of generic (correct specifications, of course) little things I keep in a matchbox that cost a few bucks. In total.
In the meantime I am happy with a a bunch of generic (correct specifications, of course) little things I keep in a matchbox that cost a few bucks. In total.
I was asking the OP
The connections themselves maybe not (although the optic connection can't handle as high of a data rate) but the way they are processed might not all be the same. Maybe I'm hallucinating but IIRC Stereophile sometimes measures different performance from different connections. And they're always saying asynchronous isochronous is the best USB configuration. If we add in HDMI someone (who the heck was it?!?) showed that HMDI on a receiver was always a bit polluted, even if there was no video being carried.
Unbalanced
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I am reminded of an old joke.
What’s the difference between a stereo salesperson and a computer salesperson?
The stereo salesperson knows when they are lying to you?
What’s the difference between a stereo salesperson and a computer salesperson?
The stereo salesperson knows when they are lying to you?
That is generalizing to the maximum. Not fair to the majority of stereo salespeople in any manner.
JSmith
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Well it's very easy to fleece people of their money when there has been so many audiophool myths propagated over many years, as all they need to do is prey upon those who don't have technical backgrounds by calling into play such myths that often sound very plausible.
If people just came to ASR instead of watching idiotic YT "reviewers" and believing their tripe, the industry would be much better off.
JSmith
Unbalanced
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So are you saying that stereo salespeople are also unaware of when they are lying to you?That is generalizing to the maximum. Not fair to the majority of stereo salespeople in any manner.
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So are you saying that stereo salespeople are also unaware of when they are lying to you?
Because one dork is a BS'er then all are bad. OK. sure.
Can anyone tell me what a SORTZ is? I asked Amir and apparently he does not know either. Although I do not know what a SORTZ is, I highly suspect that it is a snake oil product. https://audiogroupdenmark.com/aavik-acoustics/
dedobot
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Ansuz Sortz Signature / Noise Reduction (RCA)
Ansuz Sortz Signature RCA is a termination plug for open input and output sockets. It is designed to reduce disturbing noise.
audiogroupdenmark.com
"Ansuz Sortz is a termination plug for open input and output sockets. This innovative audio product is designed to audibly reduce disturbing noise that infiltrates any audio component through the open input and output sockets or through the ground connection.."
Only $1600 for pair.
JSmith
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Ansuz Sortz Signature / Noise Reduction (RCA)
Ansuz Sortz Signature RCA is a termination plug for open input and output sockets. It is designed to reduce disturbing noise.
audiogroupdenmark.com
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It exists because they (needlessly in my opinion) try to justify luxury prices through engineering terms.
Hobbies do that in general, yes, but up to a point.
Went it comes to prices that try to separate classes no excuse is needed. Some know that, some don't.
Hobbies do that in general, yes, but up to a point.
Went it comes to prices that try to separate classes no excuse is needed. Some know that, some don't.
dedobot
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"...to create the finest and most uniform layer of Zirconium and tungsten followed by a layer consisting of aluminium titanium nitride. Finally, the discs are coated with a layer of zirconium."
Missing the depleted uranium , it's optional !
Missing the depleted uranium , it's optional !
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Thanks guys! That was amazing response time. When I looked at the date of the last post, I had doubts that the thread was still active.
So I read the 6Moons thing and that told me what the SORTZ is but it did not convince me that SORTZ is not snake oil. Are there really folks stupid enough to buy this?
I have two TOPPING LA90 Discrete amps and I don't hear any noise, even when I put my ear right up to the tweeter when turned all the way up (low gain) but with no input signal and the two LA90's new cost about the same as a pair of SORTZ.
Are there any measurements that can identify any improvements?
So I read the 6Moons thing and that told me what the SORTZ is but it did not convince me that SORTZ is not snake oil. Are there really folks stupid enough to buy this?
I have two TOPPING LA90 Discrete amps and I don't hear any noise, even when I put my ear right up to the tweeter when turned all the way up (low gain) but with no input signal and the two LA90's new cost about the same as a pair of SORTZ.
Are there any measurements that can identify any improvements?
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Just expensive shorting caps:
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Speedskater
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Putting a 'shorting cap' on a output connector, may damage the output stage.
Putting a 'shorting cap' on a unused input connector, accomplishes nothing.
Putting a 'shorting cap' on a unused input connector, accomplishes nothing.
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