I've no idea but wouldn't surprise me if it's free Spotify and YouTube on their cell phone
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Who buys $20,000 components?
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Guessing not you. Beyond that, who cares?
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I asked the question so my motivation are these points.
Much audio advertising is trying to sell very expensive components. It may be working because the adds keep appearing.
If you buy 20K components, you may need a collection of 6 or 10 pieces for a audio system, so perhaps 250K. Some people say, that's not much today.
Gotta say, many people on this forum seem to be penny pinchers ..." I can get that Fosi for 10 bucks less".
If you have a 250k or more stereo system, what do you drive, a Lamborghini? Is your home worth 5 million?
Have you seen the photos of people home systems? Most are pretty meager.
So, I'm asking members here, tell us how many 20K components your own?
I'm admitting, my amps are all under 1500$, speakers all under 1500$ each, Sources all under 500$.
I like to drool over the ultra expensive stuff but then I ask myself, would Warren Buffet buy it?
Much audio advertising is trying to sell very expensive components. It may be working because the adds keep appearing.
If you buy 20K components, you may need a collection of 6 or 10 pieces for a audio system, so perhaps 250K. Some people say, that's not much today.
Gotta say, many people on this forum seem to be penny pinchers ..." I can get that Fosi for 10 bucks less".
If you have a 250k or more stereo system, what do you drive, a Lamborghini? Is your home worth 5 million?
Have you seen the photos of people home systems? Most are pretty meager.
So, I'm asking members here, tell us how many 20K components your own?
I'm admitting, my amps are all under 1500$, speakers all under 1500$ each, Sources all under 500$.
I like to drool over the ultra expensive stuff but then I ask myself, would Warren Buffet buy it?
I have an Altitude 16 on loan which is sorely tempting me to significantly dent my savings...
Or you may not. Example in my last post.
Probably not, many multimillionaires/billionaires are tight with their money, love money above all else and don't want anyone else getting theirs. Buffet for instance probably doesn't know or care about audio and doesn't spend money on anything apparently. He eats at a cheap diner or McDonald's and drinks soda.
I think there are two groups that primarily buy very high end audio both of which have an interest in audio. Highly paid engineer types or those with small businesses, or celebrity, rockstar, athlete types. Not audio but for instance Rod Steward has like over $100k in model train set up.
I think how much to spend on audio is a personal decision based on the value audio has to one and their budget. I don't think what audio gear a billionaire would buy is any kind of guide.
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I think you can see the money spent on model trains. The tricky thing about high end audio is you fool yourself into thinking you can hear it.
Yah... There is really nothing quite like it for features and "tweakiness". After going through Audyssey, MCACC, Dirac Live, YPAO, etc. AVRs and processors I decided to just get the Trinnov and be done with it. Plus back then there were only one or two systems that would handle 15 channels in my media room once I added overhead speakers, and they were in the same ballpark cost-wise. I started with Heathkits and Radio Shack hand-me-downs as a kid and 50 years later have the system I have now, built up over about 15 years mainly on special deals, not like I won the lottery.
If you have a dealer you can work with (Amir is one, and I have a good local dealer) you may be able to get a deal. Trinnov is replacing DAC and HDMI boards which may yield dealer returns of new stock for upgrades than can be had at significant cost savings.
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No $$$ components at my house. Although the general public would still think I was crazy for having an amp that nowadays costs $4k+ new, a $600 FM tuner, etc... I could sell the 25+ year-old Bryston amp and buy a new Class D, and walk away with a profit.
The only think I have that is in 5 figures (US) are a pair of speakers, and they were significantly discounted as the manufacturer was clearing them out. And they have been worth every penny. All my other components could be eliminated or replaced for new components that cost a lot less. They are relics from when I believed hi--fi mags, audio groups and retailers. I've more recently assembled systems for my wife and son that each totaled less than $2k USD. I do not see myself paying much for new components going forward.
The only think I have that is in 5 figures (US) are a pair of speakers, and they were significantly discounted as the manufacturer was clearing them out. And they have been worth every penny. All my other components could be eliminated or replaced for new components that cost a lot less. They are relics from when I believed hi--fi mags, audio groups and retailers. I've more recently assembled systems for my wife and son that each totaled less than $2k USD. I do not see myself paying much for new components going forward.
Even with a deal (and I could probably get one from Trinnov), it's... breathtaking for me.
Still, the features this has and the end-game nature of it are pushing me hard. I'm weak.
No use for the Trinnov unless it is.
Agree, not including speakers, with carefully selected components at somewhere near the $2,000 range spending more there is huge diminishing returns in audio improvement, maybe even no discernable improvement. The further below that $2000 the larger the returns in audio performance.
Sorry, I don't buy that explanation. I'm guessing you expected people to chime in and say how stupid those people were. I could be wrong. Still, I'm confident that if you had wanted to drool over the stuff, you would have asked a different question.
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Someone who has the space and money
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Could recommend speakers suitable for extra-large spaces?
I have a very large plot of land in the countryside. I hope to build a private cinema from scratch, with a screen size of over 350 inches. The cinema is approximately 14 meters long and has a volume of around 700 cubic meters. I want to set up a surround sound system, and I have the following...
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Were lucky nowadays in this hobby to be competitive for little money. Other hobbies...not so much. I play in one of the gazzilion out there that if you don't put in the $ needed ..you loose..everytime.
But in answer to OP. If I were wealthy...the hard answer is ME & well over 20k. I would be flying a team in to start the design stages of my future, massive in scale audio playpen & have my own working production studio attached to that.
But in answer to OP. If I were wealthy...the hard answer is ME & well over 20k. I would be flying a team in to start the design stages of my future, massive in scale audio playpen & have my own working production studio attached to that.
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What "6 or 10" pieces does what need? Unless it's surround sound?
My next evolutionary phase (if it comes) will be either Integrated Amp (incl DAC) plus speakers or simply do it all active speakers. 3 pieces, tops, ever. Less preferred.
My first thought too. Although on reflection my cost-no-object system in my cost-no-object home would actually involve a large number of subwoofers around the big room to sort the bass response out. Probably not what the OP had in mind though!
+1 on the Trinnov. The average new car in the United States is almost $50K and average age of the car on the road is ~13 years.
$20K seems insanely high for an AVP but $20k is a cheap car by today's standards.
Skip the car upgrade, take public transit or walk, and with a bit of luck, you can apply it to hi-fi. But the other way to see it is that there are people with entry level cars, and people with Lexus, Mercedes, and BMW who are successful but not millionaires. We don't think twice about the mid-level luxury car as extravagant in the way a Lamborghini or Rolls Royce seems. Drop the Mercedes or BMW for a Subaru or Mazda, and now you've got the budget for your Trinnov there.
The Trinnov is special, for sure. 144.9 dB SINAD with full room correction!
If you look at the Bluesound Node Icon my 116 dB SINAD drops to 95 dB the moment I enable Dirac.
None of this is audible, of course, but the Trinnov's strength isn't about the SINAD but the algorithms used for room correction and things like "waveforming".
$20K seems insanely high for an AVP but $20k is a cheap car by today's standards.
Skip the car upgrade, take public transit or walk, and with a bit of luck, you can apply it to hi-fi. But the other way to see it is that there are people with entry level cars, and people with Lexus, Mercedes, and BMW who are successful but not millionaires. We don't think twice about the mid-level luxury car as extravagant in the way a Lamborghini or Rolls Royce seems. Drop the Mercedes or BMW for a Subaru or Mazda, and now you've got the budget for your Trinnov there.
The Trinnov is special, for sure. 144.9 dB SINAD with full room correction!
If you look at the Bluesound Node Icon my 116 dB SINAD drops to 95 dB the moment I enable Dirac.
None of this is audible, of course, but the Trinnov's strength isn't about the SINAD but the algorithms used for room correction and things like "waveforming".
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