Which Star Trek series do you enjoy?

[Sal1950]

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[mlankton]

Discovery was so bad, I hope careers were destroyed because of it.

 

[Chrispy]

The only one I've watched all of is the original. Tried a few of the spinoffs but never did it for me.....same for most of the movies, altho the last few were decent.

 

[TimF]

I'm glad that by the Enterprise star date no one is still using turntable audio technology. Audio connecting cables must be in-the-wall type. I suppose they miniaYturized thumb drives down to micro scale. It is a shame the never got to enjoy album covers. In none of the series do you see anyone wearing big clunky audio headphones. And there is little rock n roll. Thank god the Beatles finally went away.

 

[Chrispy]

I'm glad that by the Enterprise star date no one is still using turntable audio technology. Audio connecting cables must be in-the-wall type. I suppose they miniaYturized thumb drives down to micro scale. It is a shame the never got to enjoy album covers. In none of the series do you see anyone wearing big clunky audio headphones. And there is little rock n roll. Thank god the Beatles finally went away.

LOL reminds me of the tt being used in Star Trek (2009)

 

[HoweSound]

I have some nostalgia for TOS because I was around when it was originally broadcast. Sci-Fi fans back then were happy to see the show gain traction on broadcast TV. Now I will occasionally enjoy seeing the original campy captain Kirk. I'm also a fan of Patrick Stewart, but more so for his comedy chops. The best science fiction on TV (IMHO) was Babylon 5 - great story arc and superb acting from many cast members, including Andreas Katsulas - may he RIP.

 

[Chagall]

Discovery was so bad, I hope careers were destroyed because of it.

Unfortunately, Alex Kurtzman, the producer and showrunner is still running Star Trek... Starfleet Academy won't be any better.

 

[Karmacoma]

Unfortunately, Alex Kurtzman, the producer and showrunner is still running Star Trek... Starfleet Academy won't be any better.

I bet both my arms it's actually gonna be worse.

 

[Chrispy]

I bet both my arms it's actually gonna be worse.

Par for the course?

 

[Sal1950]

Strange New Worlds isn't too bad if they'd ditch the musical and antimated episodes, yuck.

 

[BolusOfDoom]

I understand that recent Star Trek is not my cup of tea due to generational change of the coveted advertising demographic. I'm not their target anymore.

But is no one taken out of the story by characters whose appearance isn't organic to the story, but there for "representation"? I'm overweight, but I'd never expect a far-future Starfleet character to be plump. If Lieutenant X goes on a buffet bender on Risa shore leave, he can take the 17th generation of Ozempic in a hypospray or ask the transporter operator to activate the muffin top filter. Nobody wants an engineer who gets winded halfway up a Jefferies Tube.

 

[Karmacoma]

I'm not their target anymore.

A feeling a lot of us share.

I'm overweight, but I'd never expect a far-future Starfleet character to be plump.

And I'm average but I'd never expect a far future Starfleet character to act less civilised than me. That's the thing others got right, they made you feel our civilisation had evolved for the better.

 

[Mart68]

A feeling a lot of us share.

And I'm average but I'd never expect a far future Starfleet character to act less civilised than me. That's the thing others got right, they made you feel our civilisation had evolved for the better.

I do wonder about that. In first season TNG they are not so evolved that they don't look down on the cultural practices of other species but that theme dies away after that first season, thankfully.

There seems to be two stories though. One is that after the third world war people decided to cooperate instead of fight. The other is that the ability to transform energy into matter - the 'Replicator' eliminated want and the use of and accumulation of wealth/money.

I suppose it could be both.

One thing that has always troubled me is that, if there's no such thing as money, what are they playing poker for? Poker as a game does not work unless there is the ability to lose something of value.

 

[Chagall]

I do wonder about that. In first season TNG they are not so evolved that they don't look down on the cultural practices of other species but that theme dies away after that first season, thankfully.

There seems to be two stories though. One is that after the third world war people decided to cooperate instead of fight. The other is that the ability to transform energy into matter - the 'Replicator' eliminated want and the use of and accumulation of wealth/money.

I suppose it could be both.

One thing that has always troubled me is that, if there's no such thing as money, what are they playing poker for? Poker as a game does not work unless there is the ability to lose something of value.

I don't remember if there was ever a clear explanation of how the economy works in the TV shows. Only thing I remember is a couple of throwaway lines in the episode The neutral zone with the cryogenically frozen people from the past.

But yeah, poker makes no sense, also how does Picard's family own a vineyard and a castle if there is no money and material possessions

 

[Keith_W]

I understand that recent Star Trek is not my cup of tea due to generational change of the coveted advertising demographic. I'm not their target anymore.

If you mean mature people, i'm afraid that that demographic has been abandoned for a few series now. By "mature", I don't mean advanced in age - I mean people who put some thought into their actions. Instead, we get a bunch of space crybabies, emotional diarrhoea, and unbelievable plot contrivances. ST once respected the audience intelligence. Now it insults it. I don't think the younger demographic are as stupid as the writers seem to think, that's why ratings are tanking.

 

[Mart68]

I don't remember if there was ever a clear explanation of how the economy works in the TV shows. Only thing I remember is a couple of throwaway lines in the episode The neutral zone with the cryogenically frozen people from the past.

But yeah, poker makes no sense, also how does Picard's family own a vineyard and a castle if there is no money and material possessions

In 'The Voyage Home' when they are back in the 20th century Kirk comments 'They're still using money' implying that's no longer a thing at the time of TOS. But they don't appear to have replicators at that point. They have the food dispenser but that seems to be just the same device as they had in self-service canteens up until the 1970s. It just dispenses coloured cubes instead of normal food.

There are things the replicator can't make (antidotes for plague viruses for example, or 'gold pressed latinum)' so they would naturally become currencies or the basis of a token exchange or fiat currency, at least for trade between species.

The 'vineyard and castle' thing is a struggle. They have eliminated want, but what if I want to live in a castle and not an apartment block? Was I assigned the apartment? I mean, what is this, Soviet East Germany? That wasn't much fun.

Do they have a lottery to see who gets to live in whatever superior housing stock is available? There's a lot of unanswered questions.

 

[Sal1950]

And I'm average but I'd never expect a far future Starfleet character to act less civilised than me. That's the thing others got right, they made you feel our civilisation had evolved for the better.

Sometimes yes, sometimes not.,
There's as much warring and killing going on in TOS as today, only supposedly not back on mother earth between earthlings.
Capt Kirk kills almost as many a episode as The Rifleman.

 

[Mart68]

Sometimes yes, sometimes not.,
There's as much warring and killing going on in TOS as today, only supposedly not back on mother earth between earthlings.
Capt Kirk kills almost as many a episode as The Rifleman.

At least he doesn't have a ship full of civilians including children. We don't put families on warships even though our warships are very rarely in peril. TNG Enterprise is in peril almost every week. Who would bring their family into that level of danger?

It's one thing to be a Starfleet officer for the adventure and glory even though you don't get paid but what about the serving staff in 'Ten Forward.' They take the same risk that the ship they are on will be destroyed while they clear tables and wash pots. What's their motivation?

 

[Keith_W]

What's their motivation?

 

[JSmith]

At least he doesn't have a ship full of civilians including children. We don't put families on warships even though our warships are very rarely in peril. TNG Enterprise is in peril almost every week. Who would bring their family into that level of danger?

TNG Enterprise was a vessel of exploration and diplomacy, not a dedicated battleship... they were long duration, deep space missions. If crew members had to be separated from their families for long periods, many may choose not to join Starfleet or would resign, especially after marrying and having children.


JSmith