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Which product line is superior for the price (in this specific case)?

RoaringLion

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Hi!
I have been searching extensively for information on the internet, and here I have found a lot of valuable stuff, but not exactly what I am looking for.

In my country, being an audiophile is equivalent to being an alien.
There are only six brands that are "easily" acquired here:

- JBL
- KEF
- KLIPSCH
- POLK
- YAMAHA
- EDIFIER

However, the only one that has official representation in the country is JBL (and maybe Edifier).
This makes the price unfairly more competitive, tipping the scales disproportionately in favor of JBL. Yamaha has representation, but it is weak.

Some independent importers can get Klipsch and Polk at acceptable prices (although still more expensive).
KEF is very expensive.
I don't know or am a big fan of Edifier, but they have excellent prices and I have an open mind.

My goal is to assemble a 5.1 system for movies, games and, casually, music. Such as Jazz, Classical, Metal and Electronic.
I currently have a Denon with an Audissey microphone, a pair of Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Andrew Jones speakers (which I intended to use for surround sound) and a JBL LSR310s subwoofer.

I now want to buy the front and center speakers. I initially considered the cheap Yamaha NS-P51 kit, but I realized that there were better products available for slightly higher prices, like the JBL Stage ones.
In this case, I was very interested in the A130 bookshelfs and the A125C center speaker, since during sales (which always happen) they are cheap, with no possible price competition.

HOWEVER, the JBL Studio line, with the 620 bookshelfs and the 625C center speaker, has been appearing at strangely low prices, but still costing twice as much as the Stage line (normally it is three to four times the price).

The JBL Studio line is the maximum my budget will go. At the same price as the Studio line, I can also find the Klipsch Reference line, as well as the R-15M / R-51M bookshelfs.
The Polk are slightly more expensive, not much. In this case, they are the bookshelfs of the ES line (up to the ES15 [ES20 is very expensive]) or the XT line (slightly cheaper than JBL Studio line).

To sum up:

-> What is the best choice among the 04 product line options?

1) JBL Stage (cheap)
2) JBL Studio (twice the price of the Stage, it is expensive, but if it is much better than Stage, I am willing to pay)
3) Klipsch Reference (same price as the JBL Studio)
4) Polk ES/XT (slightly more expensive than the Studio and Reference, depending on the model, I can consider buying)

Thank you in advance for your attention!
 
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You can find measurements here, but not every model has some: https://www.spinorama.org/index.html

I'd skip the Stage line due to poor on-axis linearity and the tweeter breakup mode in the audible range.

The 620 might be worth a look, but the 625C again I'd personally skip, being an MTM design with its unavoidable directivity issues.
 

Does the Denon receiver have pre-outs? I could imagine some active JBL 305 / 306 / 308s as well, though I guess you'd have to make some RCA to XLR or TRS cables yourself.
 
You can find measurements here, but not every model has some: https://www.spinorama.org/index.html

I'd skip the Stage line due to poor on-axis linearity and the tweeter breakup mode in the audible range.

The 620 might be worth a look, but the 625C again I'd personally skip, being an MTM design with its unavoidable directivity issues.
I'm shocked by this site! I didn't know it existed! I spent the last 4 hours looking at it haha
Thanks!
About the Studio 620, I'm researching a lot about it, it looks excellent (for the budget), but I'm still unsure.
 

Does the Denon receiver have pre-outs? I could imagine some active JBL 305 / 306 / 308s as well, though I guess you'd have to make some RCA to XLR or TRS cables yourself.
Unfortunately not! You gave an excellent idea, especially since there are usually promotions for this JBL line (and Black Friday is just around the corner haha).
The only pre-out that my Denon has is for the subwoofer, in which I'm using an RCA -> TRS that I bought on Amazon (however, I'm going to change to an RCA -> XLR).
 
You can find measurements here, but not every model has some: https://www.spinorama.org/index.html

I'd skip the Stage line due to poor on-axis linearity and the tweeter breakup mode in the audible range.

The 620 might be worth a look, but the 625C again I'd personally skip, being an MTM design with its unavoidable directivity issues.
Regarding Spinorama, could you please enlighten me?
- Should I take the "Tonality" number literally? Irrevocably? I'll give you an example: The Stage A130, despite having a low overall score, has an excellent score with perfect subwoofer and EQ (8.29 [Erin's]). I was considering the JBL 280f tower which has a better overall score, but with a perfect subwoofer and EQ it has lower Tonality (7.25 [Erin's]) than the A130! This leaves me with many doubts about the practical reality of what the sound would be like.
As I will use a subwoofer and EQ (Audyssey) the A130 ends up sounding superior compared to 280f! Is that right?
- The other question is: What would be a "perfect" subwoofer?
 
Regarding Spinorama, could you please enlighten me?
- Should I take the "Tonality" number literally? Irrevocably? I'll give you an example: The Stage A130, despite having a low overall score, has an excellent score with perfect subwoofer and EQ (8.29 [Erin's]). I was considering the JBL 280f tower which has a better overall score, but with a perfect subwoofer and EQ it has lower Tonality (7.25 [Erin's]) than the A130! This leaves me with many doubts about the practical reality of what the sound would be like.
As I will use a subwoofer and EQ (Audyssey) the A130 ends up sounding superior compared to 280f! Is that right?
- The other question is: What would be a "perfect" subwoofer?
Don't take the scores too seriously.

The algorithm behind them was created by Harman research, but not even they use it much internally.

Look at the actual measurements when deciding between speakers.
 
Don't take the scores too seriously.

The algorithm behind them was created by Harman research, but not even they use it much internally.

Look at the actual measurements when deciding between speakers.
Understood! Thanks for the information.
 
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