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Which of these amps would sound best

At 45 years old, chances are high that the caps needs replacing if that wasn’t already done. If not, I would pass on it.
 
Any amp specified between 80W and 15W in 4 ohm will do.
Pick one you like the looks, price, functionality from and you are set.
When you picked one let us know (before you buy) and ask if it is any good.

You should realize there are no amps best for genres etc.

Also every new amp may look well on paper and specs but longevity is an unknown.
Older (and proven good) amps are an option but generally you won't know how long they will last and if there are (hidden) issues with it.
 
JustJones said:
If you're wanting a class AB integrated I'd probably go with new Yamaha S501. Has sub out and you get a warranty. If you want a vintage make sure it's been recently serviced. I've never heard of amplifiers being built for certain types of music.
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I value human opinions especially on this forum beyond ai for sure, but ai also takes quotes from people all over the web, so its very confusing when it says some amps have warmer sound to it compared to others, or better dynamic range, some amps are more "musical" oriented compared to home theatre. and others more neutral in their sound.

And then on the forum nothing is being said about the differences other than that an amp is an amp so to speak.
 
bluefuzz said:
If there is actually any audible difference in a blinded comparison (all else being equal) then one of them is broken ...
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I want to believe this, that would mean i can buy any of these amps mentioned and i would be happy with the sound any of them produces if they all work.( no age related component issues)
 
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JeremyFife said:
Amps don't know what kind of music you are playing, and don't care. AI hallucinates ... approach with caution
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But then they do decide how to convey the sounds yes and not all does it the same or am i completely off. Or if what you say is true which is in a sense i believe is most definately so, with that opinion i can take any amp that produces enough power to drive my speakers and just EQ them to sound like any other amp within its class ?
 
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solderdude said:
It is alarming to see how many people put their faith in AI replies (that is based on found opinions) these days.
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Well its the reason i'm here to try and see if i can get better answers to help me make a better decision. Some AI responses do quote opinions of actual people which is good, but i don't trust it wrt its own opiniated generated replies and assumptions that i feel is a huge trap. And then it tells you, you need to pay a subscription to get better opinions, i mean that basically implies what it has given you thus far for free is rubbish.
 
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DanielT said:
In this case, no you can't.

To something that I know is true:
First and foremost, make sure you have enough power in your amplifier. The amp watt level depends on how sensitive your speakers are.Plus how loud you want (and can) play on your speakers and how much dynamics the music you are playing has. There are calculators for this. Here you can read more about it:

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'How much power do you need?'

Sorry to create a few threads in this forum over the past month as I agonize over what amp to buy.

Current choices are
  • Hypex 100 wpc @ $500
  • Purifi 200 wpc @ $1k
I saw a reddit thread today regarding VU METERS and in it someone speculated that they aren't popular anymore because most people listen at very low volumes and very small percentages of what their amps have to offer. Essentially, It makes one feel kinda like a their big bad amp is a bad investment when most of the time their VU meter is barely tickling.

Besides listening at VERY LOUD, noise complaint...

Then look at what features you want on your amplifier. What you plan to plug into it, so number of inputs. Outputs (for example sub out). Maybe remote control and so on.

In addition, see the answers above from those who wrote in the thread. I agree with all of them.:)
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best reply so far thanks.

My use for it is Pure music listening with two 4 ohm 80 watt speakers (two 8 inch woofers (2.5 way) per tower) Nothing High end, but would like them to sound the best they can within the budget i have. And perhaps the ability to upgrade the speakers so the amp can handle it but not absolutely mandotary.
 
antcollinet said:
You can't - it is just regurgitating what it has been trained on - which is in turn derived from most of the nonsense spouted about audio gear from all over the internet.


A non broken amp** operated with in its power limits will sound like any other non broken amp being run within its power limits. Or so close the difference doesn't matter.


** non broken also means "not broken by design" Many tube amps for example have such high output impedance that their output frequency response can be influenced by the frequency characteristic of the speaker - this can be audible, and I therefore classify that as being broken by design. But even then audible differences are likely to be so slight as not to make a significant difference to the enjoyment of music.
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And again, i want to believe this then i can buy any of the above amps mentioned and i should be happy yes (if they all weren't abused and aged the same ) ?
 
DanielT said:
That Sansui AU-D5 you're thinking about is around 45 years old. The older the more likely the amp is to break down, need servicing and so on.
speakers of 4 ohm 80 watt....Plus it doesn't say if it can handle 4 Ohm speakers. My tip, don't choose that amp.

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The other two seem relatively similar. They're quite old at around 30 years old but if they work as they should and you get them cheap so why not.:)
That if they have as much power and the features that you want. Plus if they can handle 4 Ohm speakers (which I didn't check regarding them). Amplifiers from that era usually do that.

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They can handle 4 Ohms, I checked. It would have been strange otherwise. Here is the data on them:


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I really was putting this one up for strong consideration, i have read nothing bad about these amps online. All info about them seems to be about people getting excited about this amp.
 
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kevinsonic said:
And again, i want to believe this then i can buy any of the above amps mentioned and i should be happy yes (if they all weren't abused and aged the same ) ?
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Yes! Just buy the one that seems to be in the best condition and has the feature set you need.
 
Keith_W said:
Did ChatGPT give you that ridiculous answer without asking you what speakers you are using? :facepalm:
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asked many questions with and without speaker specs, what came out strong from ai overall is that according to ai two 8 inch woofers need to be driven by adequate power to sound good. But make sense anyway ( it just really emphasized the fact)
 
Why do you want to believe that genres are best amplified by certain amps? That's complete nonsense. Not knowing your country or market for audio, hard to know what a best value might be among your choices. I'd look to new amps rather than old amps in any case, even if you need to save up some money. The max wattage of a speaker is fairly meaningless, especially trying to match amp power needed....that would be a combination of distance from speakers, your listening level and the speakers' sensitivity.

ps meant to mention eq boost also costs amp power....
 
kevinsonic said:
But then they do decide how to convey the sounds yes and not all does it the same or am i completely off. Or if what you say is true which is in a sense i believe is most definately so, with that opinion i can take any amp that produces enough power to drive my speakers and just EQ them
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Generally yes. Consider amplification that will let you apply Parmetric EQ like an amplifier from WiiM.
 
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solderdude said:
Any amp specified between 80W and 15W in 4 ohm will do.
Pick one you like the looks, price, functionality from and you are set.
When you picked one let us know (before you buy) and ask if it is any good.

You should realize there are no amps best for genres etc.

Also every new amp may look well on paper and specs but longevity is an unknown.
Older (and proven good) amps are an option but generally you won't know how long they will last and if there are (hidden) issues with it.
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Thank you sir well respected answer.
 
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