Which of these amps would sound best

[kevinsonic]

Calling all non classical music entheusiasts to give me an opinion please: (nothing against classical music there are plenty that i like but my main genres is as follows)

the 3 amplifiers i can choose from below which will be best ?
i'm not sure if i can trust chatgpt:

• Best for Trance: Sansui AU-D5 for its rich, warm sound.
• Best for Metal: Denon PMA-450 due to its dynamic range and clarity.
• Best All-Rounder: Marantz PM-53, which provides a good balance for both genres.

If you must choose from the 3 above all in the same price class, which will you choose.

speakers of 4 ohm 80 watt peak will be driven plus a 120w peak sub (but all speakers may or may not be upgraded in future)

 

[JustJones]

If you're wanting a class AB integrated I'd probably go with new Yamaha S501. Has sub out and you get a warranty. If you want a vintage make sure it's been recently serviced. I've never heard of amplifiers being built for certain types of music.

 

[bluefuzz]

the 3 amplifiers i can choose from below which will be best ?

If there is actually any audible difference in a blinded comparison (all else being equal) then one of them is broken ...

 

[JeremyFife]

Calling all non classical music entheusiasts to give me an opinion please: (nothing against classical music there are plenty that i like but my main genres is as follows)

the 3 amplifiers i can choose from below which will be best ?
i'm not sure if i can trust chatgpt:

• Best for Trance: Sansui AU-D5 for its rich, warm sound.
• Best for Metal: Denon PMA-450 due to its dynamic range and clarity.
• Best All-Rounder: Marantz PM-53, which provides a good balance for both genres.

If you must choose from the 3 above all in the same price class, which will you choose.

speakers of 4 ohm 80 watt peak will be driven plus a 120w peak sub (but all speakers may or may not be upgraded in future)

Amps don't know what kind of music you are playing, and don't care. AI hallucinates ... approach with caution

 

[solderdude]

It is alarming to see how many people put their faith in AI replies (that is based on found opinions) these days.

 

[DanielT]

i'm not sure if i can trust chatgpt:

In this case, no you can't.

To something that I know is true:
First and foremost, make sure you have enough power in your amplifier. The amp watt level depends on how sensitive your speakers are.Plus how loud you want (and can) play on your speakers and how much dynamics the music you are playing has. There are calculators for this. Here you can read more about it:

J

'How much power do you need?'

Mar 27, 2021

Sorry to create a few threads in this forum over the past month as I agonize over what amp to buy.

Current choices are

• Hypex 100 wpc @ $500
• Purifi 200 wpc @ $1k

I saw a reddit thread today regarding VU METERS and in it someone speculated that they aren't popular anymore because most people listen at very low volumes and very small percentages of what their amps have to offer. Essentially, It makes one feel kinda like a their big bad amp is a bad investment when most of the time their VU meter is barely tickling.

Besides listening at VERY LOUD, noise complaint...

• jshelbyj
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• Forum: Amplifiers, Phono preamp, and Analog Audio Review

Then look at what features you want on your amplifier. What you plan to plug into it, so number of inputs. Outputs (for example sub out). Maybe remote control and so on.

In addition, see the answers above from those who wrote in the thread. I agree with all of them.

 

[Saponetto]

Trying to avoid that it's sort of error following, but cannot avoid

 

[Keith_W]

Did ChatGPT give you that ridiculous answer without asking you what speakers you are using?

 

[Robin L]

i'm not sure if i can trust chatgpt:

You can't. The best amplifier is the one with the least distortion and enough power to drive your speakers properly. AI gathers all these unverifiable opinions on the interwebs, most of which consist of pure bovine excrement.

 

[antcollinet]

i'm not sure if i can trust chatgpt:

You can't - it is just regurgitating what it has been trained on - which is in turn derived from most of the nonsense spouted about audio gear from all over the internet.


A non broken amp** operated with in its power limits will sound like any other non broken amp being run within its power limits. Or so close the difference doesn't matter.


** non broken also means "not broken by design" Many tube amps for example have such high output impedance that their output frequency response can be influenced by the frequency characteristic of the speaker - this can be audible, and I therefore classify that as being broken by design. But even then audible differences are likely to be so slight as not to make a significant difference to the enjoyment of music.

 

[PristineSound]

If there is actually any audible difference in a blinded comparison (all else being equal) then one of them is broken ...

Or poorly engineered.

 

[voodooless]

Or poorly engineered.

That is broken… just by design

 

[DanielT]

Calling all non classical music entheusiasts to give me an opinion please: (nothing against classical music there are plenty that i like but my main genres is as follows)

the 3 amplifiers i can choose from below which will be best ?
i'm not sure if i can trust chatgpt:

• Best for Trance: Sansui AU-D5 for its rich, warm sound.
• Best for Metal: Denon PMA-450 due to its dynamic range and clarity.
• Best All-Rounder: Marantz PM-53, which provides a good balance for both genres.

If you must choose from the 3 above all in the same price class, which will you choose.

speakers of 4 ohm 80 watt peak will be driven plus a 120w peak sub (but all speakers may or may not be upgraded in future)

That Sansui AU-D5 you're thinking about is around 45 years old. The older the more likely the amp is to break down, need servicing and so on.
speakers of 4 ohm 80 watt....Plus it doesn't say if it can handle 4 Ohm speakers. My tip, don't choose that amp.

Sansui AU-D 5 | hifi-wiki.com

hifi-wiki.com

The other two seem relatively similar. They're quite old at around 30 years old but if they work as they should and you get them cheap so why not.
That if they have as much power and the features that you want. Plus if they can handle 4 Ohm speakers (which I didn't check regarding them). Amplifiers from that era usually do that.

Edit:
They can handle 4 Ohms, I checked. It would have been strange otherwise. Here is the data on them:

https://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/marantz/pm-53.shtml

https://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/denon/pma-450.shtml

 

[JohnnyAudio]

Buy the best looking amp.

 

[Robin L]

Buy the best looking amp.

 

[antcollinet]

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What a monstrosity - looks like something dreamed up by the set designers of Dr Who.

 

[Robin L]

What a monstrosity - looks like something dreamed up by the set designers of Dr Who.

A Dalek unfolded. The $650,000 Pivetta Opera One, 14,000 watts of power for those with way too much money. Plug it into a pair of Minimus 7s and watch the voice coils explode into flame. Might even be capable of making a pair of Wilson Audio WAMM Master Chronosonics burst into flames.

 

[Overseas]

Obviously the OP did not ask an audiophile AI.

 

[kevinsonic]

Thanks to all, and every single reply makes 100% sense.
If i could just be given an opinion which of the three (now 4) would be best.

Good deals on amps only tend to last a couple of days.

Good amp deals only comes around twice a year used in my country so i still did not gather any opinions that could possible help to make a decision.
the speakers is 4 ohms 80 watts peak, floorstanders with two 8 inch woofer and a tweeter, so 2.5 or 3 way ? Absolute specs cannot be gathered about the speakers but this is what i have so out of these which would be best: (i added one more to the list, i can get any one of them for the same price.

• Sansui AU-D5
• Denon PMA-450
• Marantz PM-53
• Denon PMA 520 AE

One thing wrt the sansui that was mentioned above that it is 45 years old, yes for sure that concerns me, however no matter how i search it seems like the sansui au d5 comes out on top.

Does a 45 year old amp meant that, say i buy a harman kardon avr 450 from 2003.

Though it is specked out lower than all the other amps above in terms of being more of a music amp, because of its more modern age, would it outperform the others above ?

 

[kevinsonic]

If you're wanting a class AB integrated I'd probably go with new Yamaha S501. Has sub out and you get a warranty. If you want a vintage make sure it's been recently serviced. I've never heard of amplifiers being built for certain types of music.

Very nice but its 6 times the price of the others mentioned above in my market