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remeasuing the OL DAC with your new analyzer would be nice
I had it and compared it to the d50, I could find some slight differences in sound, the ol dac sounded a bit more compressed but it was really difficult to hear, without fast a/b switching a think you could not tell (even more if you don't know the track well). Here my comparison https://audio-monkeys.com/dac/jds-ol-dac-vs-topping-d30-vs-topping-d50-en/

It would nonetheless be interesting to see the new measurements by amirm
 

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Hi all.
+1 for Focusrite Clarett 2Pre USB
Thank you !
 
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Hi all.
+1 for Focusrite Clarett 2Pre USB
Thank you !
Hi there. i have a different FocusRite in for review but despite hours spent on it, it won't work on Windows. So I am hesitant to deal with more of their products.
 

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Hi all.
+1 for Focusrite Clarett 2Pre USB
Thank you !
In the meantime, there is https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...terface-suitable-for-measurements.7536/page-3 of clarett 4pre. 2pre and 4pre are basically the same, 2pre is a little better even. I had 2pre for a day for testing. And i returned it because it's basically the same performance as focusrite forte. But for new purchase it's really good. If you are using Mac I recommend apogee element 24 which has even better adda. 2pre is very competent for the price and form factor for Windows based.
 

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i have a different FocusRite in for review but despite hours spent on it, it won't work on Windows. So I am hesitant to deal with more of their products.

The 2i2 (version 2) is rock solid on my Win10 machines. Just works.
 
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Amir's Windows pc is kind magic. Probably some driver conflict at this point. Too many drivers don't work on his computer now.
Yeh, the desktop machine by now is full of crap, I mean drivers..... Got smart and stopped using my everyday laptop for testing....
 
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It’s probably been suggested already, but how about the Devialet amp/DAC?
A local member has one and we plan to get together in the Fall when we are both less busy and test.
 

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Hi there. i have a different FocusRite in for review but despite hours spent on it, it won't work on Windows. So I am hesitant to deal with more of their products.

Hi Amir.
I am waiting for the 2Pre USB to arrive next week.
I am interested mostly in using it as a DAC and occasionally to connect a microphone for my daughter.
It will be used as Roon endpoint, with linux, so i was just curious to see how good is as a DAC.
I'll try it under windows also and will let you know.
Best regards !
 

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Yeh, the desktop machine by now is full of crap, I mean drivers..... Got smart and stopped using my everyday laptop for testing....

Maybe an Esxi machine would help you.
To have virtualized windows with snapshots for different driver configuration.
 
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I would definitely like to see a measurement of this DAC+headphones amp with volume knob cheapo (29$):
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32670431982.html

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I exaggerate because this hobby tends to extremes and exaggerations and that is, obviously, not always the case, as many of the best DACs (or preamps, speakers, turntables, etc.) are not excessively dear. Several designs have made them themselves felt through their affordability that turned the industry on its head giving an entrée of audiophile sound for the price of an hors d'oeuvres.

But, it is no stretch to say that as you climb the ladder of quality for digital hardware, the audible returns can exponentially increase, most often this happens on the separates side. Audiophiles as a whole tend to lust the most after those manufacturers whose wares creep into the four or five-digit price range. Why? Because it’s the same way people tend to lust after a Jaguar E-Type instead of Ford Escort. They’re both cars… buuuut.

Does that make this lust wrong, or is this perfectionist audio pursuit flawed because of ever more expensive gear? That’s your call. In my experience the market bears what it can and I’d doubt the watch or camera collectors out there would raise an eyebrow at dropping $10k for an objet d’art or just something they plain really wanted. YMMV.

It is also my experience that sonic differences between DACs – even in the same price range – for high-fidelity playback can easily be as drastic as the results of swapping phono cartridges on a turntable. Which is why it can be just as difficult to settle on a digital front end as it is an analog one. So, if you thought you had your ultimate DAC choice narrowed down to two or three options, I’m going to give you five more to ponder.
I wish this was irony. :oops:
 

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I would love for the Audiolab M-DAC and M-DAC plus to be measured and the SMSL M300 as well if possible.

I second this request. The M-DAC won multiple awards at the time, and the designer, John Westlake, appears to be highly thought of in Hi-Fi circles, so it'd be interesting to see how it measures up.
 
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