which audio system is better for deep bass?genelec the one or jbl plus mk subwoofer

[derekchan]

i have a 2.1 av speaker setup:jbl 4309 as front L/R with mca 225 gen2 power amp drivering, the mrx740 as av pre amp,plus mk v12+ as subwoofer

i am wondering if a pair of genelc 8341a compete with 2.1 jbl system,who will be better for deep bass two channel audio.

should i spend extra money for 8341a or enjoy the jbl with mk subwoofer?

 

[staticV3]

the 8341a does not compete with a (competent) subwoofer, no

 

[vsch]

Without a subwoofer, the Genelec 8341 won't stand a chance in bass.

Keeping the sub and only replacing the jbl speakers with the genelecs would be an upgrade. However, I'm not sure how audible that would be post room correction, at a midfield distance, and in a typical untreated room.

 

[derekchan]

the 8341a does not compete with a (competent) subwoofer, no

how about really expensive 12in bass speaker jbl 4349
or floor standing speaker JBL LS 80

The front L/R managed to produce the main sound effect and it would be sad if passive bookshelf speaker can have deep bass as subwoofer.

 

[staticV3]

how about really expensive 12in bass speaker jbl 4349

Rolls off sharply below 40Hz, so won't play deep bass like a subwoofer would.

or floor standing speaker JBL LS 80

Same story.

The front L/R managed to produce the main sound effect and it would be sad if passive bookshelf speaker can have deep bass as subwoofer.

Not sure I understand, why would that be sad?

 

[derekchan]

Without a subwoofer, the Genelec 8341 won't stand a chance in bass.

Keeping the sub and only replacing the jbl speakers with the genelecs would be an upgrade. However, I'm not sure how audible that would be post room correction, at a midfield distance, and in a typical untreated room.

can i ask if a big size 2.0 speaker maybe a floor speaker like magico,pmc three way ,which could cost more than 15 000 usd
could this hi end 2.0 speaker playback stereo music with better accurate deep bass than jbl 4309 plus a mk v12+ sub?

 

[derekchan]

Rolls off sharply below 40Hz, so won't play deep bass like a subwoofer would.


Same story.


Not sure I understand, why would that be sad?

if most expensive speaker like below 1 0000 usb floor or big size bookshelf speaker
can't compete the deep bass with mk v12+ plus a budget jbl 4309 bookshelf

the tradition of hifi magazine only suggest a accuphase integ amp to drive a three way floor speaker like pmc
how could this expensive floor speaker called hifi speaker but won't be able to playback a deep bass

my question is does cd audio or hi res audio contain deep bass that could subwoofer can reproduce?
if music studio remixing,producing and recording music that doesn't equip a sub as 2.1 to playback their recording

that won't be necessary to use 2.1 for music listening

 

[MaxwellsEq]

if most expensive speaker like below 1 0000 usb floor or big size bookshelf speaker
can't compete the deep bass with mk v12+ plus a budget jbl 4309 bookshelf

the tradition of hifi magazine only suggest a accuphase integ amp to drive a three way floor speaker like pmc
how could this expensive floor speaker called hifi speaker but won't be able to playback a deep bass

my question is does cd audio or hi res audio contain deep bass that could subwoofer can reproduce?
if music studio remixing,producing and recording music that doesn't equip a sub as 2.1 to playback their recording

that won't be necessary to use 2.1 for music listening

Your question is difficult to understand and answer. But here's my attempt:

1. In most cases with the same master, CD and Hi Res will have the same bass response.

2. Very high cost speakers don't necessarily produce louder or deeper bass.

3. Very low cost speakers struggle to produce deep, loud, even bass.

4. Very small speakers struggle to produce deep, loud, even bass.

5. Very large, high cost speakers may be able to produce deep, loud, even, bass.

So there may be some very large and high cost speakers that don't need a subwoofer. But subwoofers allow flexibility of placement.

 

[Mort]

Your question is difficult to understand and answer. But here's my attempt:

1. In most cases with the same master, CD and Hi Res will have the same bass response.

2. Very high cost speakers don't necessarily produce louder or deeper bass.

3. Very low cost speakers struggle to produce deep, loud, even bass.

4. Very small speakers struggle to produce deep, loud, even bass.

5. Very large, high cost speakers may be able to produce deep, loud, even, bass.

So there may be some very large and high cost speakers that don't need a subwoofer. But subwoofers allow flexibility of placement.

Your a better man than me.

Sub separates are frequently misconfigured in my personal experience, a single designer can really optimize that low crossover better than most consumers.

 

[Flaesh]

hi end 2.0 speaker playback stereo music with better accurate deep bass

It's easy to get crap bass in a room. REW default; I just reduced the cutoff frequency to 19 Hz and lowered the sources a bit to a more realistic position:

Sorry, I don't know how to enter the brand and price of the speakers.