Where are all the women audiophiles?

[Deleted member 87496]

You'll have to explain your post to me.



As an experiment, I ignore-listed every post (and thus poster) in the humour thread that included a WAF comment, sexist joke, and so on. Soon enough whole pages were blank. Low-level stuff of course, but often off-putting.

I would hope blatantly prejudicial remarks in ASR would be reported and deleted. If we see one, let's click the report button.

 

[Deleted member 87496]

YMMV. There are some "women with balls" in this profession, and not really few. Helps to keep the men in check
Prior Art: Every hospital ward back in the day had a Matron = a "governing" nurse. Some still have them, without calling them so. Having one as your enemy was/is a very bad idea, even as a prof. I've personally seen a prof go, after the hospital director was forced to choose between the two.

100. Of course, we all know of Nurse Ratched. If you were a women in the 40s or 50s that wished to be a doctor, it would have helped your chances if you have some strong assertive, kick-ass masculine energy (same goes for CEOs in other professions). They needed to kick down the doors so others could enter. But, overall, on the average, I believe women have made the medical profession more "maternal" (ie. nurturing, caring, less ego).

 

[respice finem]

100. Of course, we all know of Nurse Ratched. If you were a women in the 40s or 50s that wished to be a doctor, it would have helped your chances if you have some strong assertive, kick-ass masculine energy (same goes for CEOs in other professions). They needed to kick down the doors so others could enter. But, overall, on the average, I believe women have made the medical profession more "maternal" (ie. nurturing, caring, less ego).

No, not that "species". The handful of Matrons I've seen were all over 60, and polite, but if necessary, very assertive. And any experienced prof respected them, because sometimes they were the only person to tell honestly what needs improving, how, and why. Better than "power point" quality management that doesn't work in real life sometimes. At least where human nature is involved.

 

[Deleted member 87496]

Roughly, the same thing happened to me. My ex-wife asked me, a year or so after the divorce when she was still single, what I had to say about the appropriate price for a pair of used Monitor Audio Silver 10:
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....and whether I thought it was a good speaker.

Monitor Audio Silver 10 were not exactly budget speakers. Speakers with dual eight-inch bass drivers, so they weren't exactly small either, but she bought them in the end because she likes to listen to music and too small speakers have too little bass and I don't want a subwoofer, as she said.

Then the question is, when do you become an audiophile? Just because my ex-wife wants decent sound, did that make her an audiophile?
I don't think she spent a second thinking about hi-fi after that speaker purchase. It was kind of bought and done, all that was left was to listen to music.

Honestly, I think my obsession with gear can easily get unhealthy. Others may not find it the case with themselves, but the endless fascination with this piece or that piece, colored by my habitual FOMO (F for FEAR - mine is chronic so I live in state of constant fear...yikes!...lol), temporarily relieved by retail therapy here and there...makes for not a great hobby. I think your wife is onto something good. I love my system now. I could die with it and be happy. Wish me luck.

 

[respice finem]

Honestly, I think my obsession with gear can easily get unhealthy. Others may not find it the case with themselves, but the endless fascination with this piece or that piece, colored by my habitual FOMO (F for FEAR - mine is chronic so I live in state of constant fear...yikes!...lol), temporarily relieved by retail therapy here and there...makes for not a great hobby. I think your wife is onto something good. I love my system now. I could die with it and be happy. Wish me luck.

Often it subsides with age, not always though.

 

[Deleted member 87496]

Often it subsides with age, not always though.

Unfortunately, I'm a late bloomer. I came to this hobby in my mid 60s. I hope by the time I reach 90, if I do, everything has subsided, and I'll exist in a blissful stupor...lol

 

[respice finem]

Unfortunately, I'm a late bloomer. I came to this hobby in my mid 60s. I hope by the time I reach 90, if I do, everything has subsided, and I'll exist in a blissful stupor...lol

The Polish boomers were kind of 10 years late, I'm born in 1967. Despite the austerity in Poland behind the iron curtain, I had access to some nice gear thanks to my father's job. But no money to buy "western" stuff before the late 80s. So I should have FOMO a.f., but I kind of don't. Maybe because of knowing how bad my hearing is at my age...

Blissful stupor, hmm. I say it like Pink Floyd: comfortably numb.

 

[Deleted member 87496]

The best thing is that as guys we don’t even need to guess or hypothesize about how women feel. Same as in hifi, we can go to the best source!

I mentioned it in my original post, but are there any women members of ASR? Is there a moderator, or Amir, who is privy to that info?

It's hard to tell by online names sometimes, but I think all who have contributed in this thread have been men.

 

[Pareto Pragmatic]

That's very interesting. Sounds like a ripe area of further scientific inquiry...what variables - social, biological, cultural, national?,etc. - make a significant difference. It'd be cool to compare a nation where males score higher and one where females do in factors that might be at play. Do you know of any research that's looked into it? Thank you.

It's not my area of expertise, and not much time to spare in the next few days, but...

Try this 2010 article, if you have access ( meta-analysis so a study of many other studies on the issue):

Cross-national patterns of gender differences in mathematics: a meta-analysis.​

NM Else-Quest, JS Hyde, MC Linn - Psychological bulletin, 2010 - psycnet.apa.org


I accessed this through researchgate.net, not the actual journal.



Table 2 shows nations, and the "MATH" column shows variation in -/+ coefficients, + means boys score higher, - means girls (they must have coded gender male=1).


Abstract, if you don't have access (emphasis added to point to some factors from their analysis):

A gender gap in mathematics achievement persists in some nations but not in others. In light of the underrepresentation of women in careers in science, technology, mathematics, and engineering, increasing research attention is being devoted to understanding gender differences in mathematics achievement,attitudes, and affect. The gender stratification hypothesis maintains that such gender differences are closely related to cultural variations in opportunity structures for girls and women. We meta-analyzed 2major international data sets, the 2003 Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study and the Programme for International Student Assessment, representing 493,495 students 14 –16 years of age, to estimate the magnitude of gender differences in mathematics achievement, attitudes, and affect across 69nations throughout the world. Consistent with the gender similarities hypothesis, all of the mean effect sizes in mathematics achievement were very small (d 0.15); however, national effect sizes showed considerable variability (ds 0.42 to 0.40). Despite gender similarities in achievement, boys reported more positive math attitudes and affect (ds 0.10 to 0.33); national effect sizes ranged from d 0.61to 0.89. In contrast to those of previous tests of the gender stratification hypothesis, our results point to specific domains of gender equity responsible for gender gaps in math. Gender equity in school enrollment, women’s share of research jobs, and women’s parliamentary representation were the most powerful predictors of cross-national variability in gender gaps in math. Results are situated within the context of existing research demonstrating apparently paradoxical effects of societal gender equity and highlight the significance of increasing girls’ and women’s agency cross-nationally.

National elected officials is a pretty good measure of gender in/equality in a nation, I've seen that in other research.

Hope that helps.

 

[Deleted member 87496]

It's not my area of expertise, and not much time to spare in the next few days, but...

Try this 2010 article, if you have access ( meta-analysis so a study of many other studies on the issue):

Cross-national patterns of gender differences in mathematics: a meta-analysis.​

NM Else-Quest, JS Hyde, MC Linn - Psychological bulletin, 2010 - psycnet.apa.org


I accessed this through researchgate.net, not the actual journal.



Table 2 shows nations, and the "MATH" column shows variation in -/+ coefficients, + means boys score higher, - means girls (they must have coded gender male=1).


Abstract, if you don't have access (emphasis added to point to some factors from their analysis):

A gender gap in mathematics achievement persists in some nations but not in others. In light of the underrepresentation of women in careers in science, technology, mathematics, and engineering, increasing research attention is being devoted to understanding gender differences in mathematics achievement,attitudes, and affect. The gender stratification hypothesis maintains that such gender differences are closely related to cultural variations in opportunity structures for girls and women. We meta-analyzed 2major international data sets, the 2003 Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study and the Programme for International Student Assessment, representing 493,495 students 14 –16 years of age, to estimate the magnitude of gender differences in mathematics achievement, attitudes, and affect across 69nations throughout the world. Consistent with the gender similarities hypothesis, all of the mean effect sizes in mathematics achievement were very small (d 0.15); however, national effect sizes showed considerable variability (ds 0.42 to 0.40). Despite gender similarities in achievement, boys reported more positive math attitudes and affect (ds 0.10 to 0.33); national effect sizes ranged from d 0.61to 0.89. In contrast to those of previous tests of the gender stratification hypothesis, our results point to specific domains of gender equity responsible for gender gaps in math. Gender equity in school enrollment, women’s share of research jobs, and women’s parliamentary representation were the most powerful predictors of cross-national variability in gender gaps in math. Results are situated within the context of existing research demonstrating apparently paradoxical effects of societal gender equity and highlight the significance of increasing girls’ and women’s agency cross-nationally.

National elected officials is a pretty good measure of gender in/equality in a nation, I've seen that in other research.

Hope that helps.

Amazing, many thanks for the time and effort in sharing this...I look forward to digesting it. Thanks again.

 

[Digital_Thor]

This is just a short clip of the complete show - a woman I dated once showed me:

This is the full show, and I think it's pretty fun and quite fitting to mine - and others close to me - experience in real life.
But you almost have to see it all, to really get how he started it all, and really acknowledge that it's not one size fits all, but that you have to adjust for your personality and background- specifically as he mentions in the beginning of the full show:

 

[DanielT]

Even though this horn bass speaker has a practical function, I suspect that the lady of the house is a bit of an audiophile. This is what the DIY writes about this regarding his horn:

Not many people can install speakers of more than one cubic meter in the living room. The wives are emphatically opposed. A friend of mine was not allowed to have speakers of even 100 liters, it was way too big, according to his wife. It was completely crazy to install such large boxes in the room, she thought. But a cabinet to install fine china with dimensions 1.6x16.0.4 was easy to install. It has a volume of 1 cubic meter...

I have never had WAF "problems"...

Edit:
Problem? Hm, doesn't sound good. You have to compromise in a relationship. Give and take, but that's not a problem. Or shouldn't be a problem, you have to be flexible. That's the nature of things. If it gets too difficult, divorce remains.

faktiskt.io • Visa tråd - Exmag bygger nytt högtalarsystem, diskussionstråd

Up to 1000 liters. High efficiency, it's a horn after all, 50 amp watts is enough to power it. Bass driver in the horn:

SB Audience :: ROSSO-15W400

www.sbaudience.com

Spoiler: Regarding horns plus crossover points to speakers from that thread

Regarding design principle. Horn speakers are known for their high efficiency. From that thread:
(it's not me who's commenting, an I-or is doing that)

Given that the efficiency is roughly 10 dB higher than for a 15" bass reflex box of about 100 liters and that the sound pressure level requirements are also not enormous, a measly 1x50 W into 8 Ω is sufficient.

Plus in general it may be of interest:

You should of course optimize all the properties of the system, but often in practice it is a matter of choosing the highest possible crossover frequency because the bass modules have significantly higher sound pressure capacity.

The upper limit frequency for non-detection of direction with bass modules varies with the characteristics of the room and the setup (equivalent absorption area and distance between listening position and bass modules), but typically you can reach up to about 125 Hz without problems here. With bass modules placed near the front speakers you can choose a significantly higher crossover frequency.

All reasoning of this type is based on the front speakers being activated (masking), that the low-pass filtering is steep (at least 24 dB/octave) and that the distortion is low (because otherwise you can perceive the direction of the harmonics).

 

[JSmith]

OP now shows as deleted, so...

Anyway, I'm off for some pie... as any time of the day is a good time for pie.


JSmith

 

[Axo1989]

OP now shows as deleted, so...

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Anyway, I'm off for some pie... as any time of the day is a good time for pie.


JSmith

Looks like. How does one get fully deleted?

Hope I wasn't wrong about being able to have such discussions here. The visible part was interesting and cordial.

 

[Axo1989]

Even though this horn bass speaker has a practical function, I suspect that the lady of the house is a bit of an audiophile. This is what the DIY writes about this regarding his horn:

Not many people can install speakers of more than one cubic meter in the living room. The wives are emphatically opposed. A friend of mine was not allowed to have speakers of even 100 liters, it was way too big, according to his wife. It was completely crazy to install such large boxes in the room, she thought. But a cabinet to install fine china with dimensions 1.6x16.0.4 was easy to install. It has a volume of 1 cubic meter...

I have never had WAF "problems"...

Edit:
Problem? Hm, doesn't sound good. You have to compromise in a relationship. Give and take, but that's not a problem. Or shouldn't be a problem, you have to be flexible. That's the nature of things. If it gets too difficult, divorce remains.

faktiskt.io • Visa tråd - Exmag bygger nytt högtalarsystem, diskussionstråd

Up to 1000 liters. High efficiency, it's a horn after all, 50 amp watts is enough to power it. Bass driver in the horn:

SB Audience :: ROSSO-15W400

www.sbaudience.com

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Spoiler: Regarding horns plus crossover points to speakers from that thread

Regarding design principle. Horn speakers are known for their high efficiency. From that thread:
(it's not me who's commenting, an I-or is doing that)

Given that the efficiency is roughly 10 dB higher than for a 15" bass reflex box of about 100 liters and that the sound pressure level requirements are also not enormous, a measly 1x50 W into 8 Ω is sufficient.

Plus in general it may be of interest:

You should of course optimize all the properties of the system, but often in practice it is a matter of choosing the highest possible crossover frequency because the bass modules have significantly higher sound pressure capacity.

The upper limit frequency for non-detection of direction with bass modules varies with the characteristics of the room and the setup (equivalent absorption area and distance between listening position and bass modules), but typically you can reach up to about 125 Hz without problems here. With bass modules placed near the front speakers you can choose a significantly higher crossover frequency.

All reasoning of this type is based on the front speakers being activated (masking), that the low-pass filtering is steep (at least 24 dB/octave) and that the distortion is low (because otherwise you can perceive the direction of the harmonics).

Clever design !!

 

[DanielT]

OP now shows as deleted, so...

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Anyway, I'm off for some pie... as any time of the day is a good time for pie.


JSmith

Why then? Not that you might know, so mostly a question for a moderator to answer. OP had, if I remember correctly, reasonable posts that did not go against forum policy? At least in this thread, but maybe I missed something?

 

[Axo1989]

Why then? Not that you might know, so mostly a question for a moderator to answer. OP had, if I remember correctly, reasonable posts that did not go against forum policy? At least in this thread, but maybe I missed something?

Curious. Looks like @JSmith never posted in this thread but arrived to announce the OP's demise. I expect shenanigans elsewhere (but you can't search for a deleted member's posts to find out). Perhaps @RickS will tell us.

 

[Sono]

I would think that it was connected to some Israel-Boycott regarding thread that has been »eliminated« yesterday or so.

 

[Salt]

A short statement by moderation should clear this @RickS @amirm ?

 

[RickS]

A short statement by moderation should clear this @RickS @amirm ?

Would have be Amir as mods can ban but only he can delete accounts.