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What you need to know about the virus in China "2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)"

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RayDunzl said:
Only $15...???
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They still need to eat, right? :) It is crises for everyone, I guess.


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I wonder why do they need to know my weight. Would this modify the final track or something? :)

However, sunny days and good music will definitely help in dealing with viruses.
 
Juhazi said:
The modern mankind doesn't have experience of this kind of rapid pandemia and we have never had such global precautions!
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Yes we had, just not everyone cares about the history and the world outside...

See SARS 2003 and MERS 2012
 
Blumlein 88 said:
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17...ithout-reliable-data/comment-page-8/#comments

DATA, we need more data.

Don't have the data needed, and everyone is rushing to a conclusion without getting that data. And maybe that is right and maybe it isn't. Excessive over-reaction is going to have consequences as well.
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You don't need data when you got fleas in a closet in a room of your house

It's nasty, that's all you need to know right now. The rest can wait, or data can be found in the clothes burnt in the backyard.

Catch them if you can. Faster that they jump and reproduce I mean.

No consequences are comparable to a life of their love ones.

It's the government to make tough decisions, yours shouldn't be that tough.
 
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andymok said:
You don't need data when you got fleas in a closet in a room of your house

It's nasty, that's all you need to know right now. The rest can wait, or data can be found in the clothes burnt in the backyard.

Catch them if you can. Faster that they jump and reproduce I mean.

No consequences are comparable to a life of their love ones.

It's the government to make tough decisions, yours shouldn't be that tough.
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Your analogy doesn't fit. If instead of fleas we insert some new never before seen infestation, then it fits. You wouldn't know whether you need to burn the clothes and fumigate or burn the house down. Neither would the government. Wouldn't want the government forcing you to burn the house only to find out next month it was an over reaction that was unnecessary.
 
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Juhazi said:
Chance of dying/micromort estimation of Covid-19 is too early to be reliable. The onset of pandemia looks awful, but we will know better only after a year or so. Isolation and social distancing will slow down expansion and make forecasting even more difficult. The modern mankind doesn't have experience of this kind of rapid pandemia and we have never had such global precautions!
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One of the problems I see is the apparent large number on asymptomatic and low symptom infected persons who can spread the disease. Infected young people can, without even knowing it pass the disease on to - and possibly kill - older people including their own relatives, without even knowing it. That characteristic of the disease also makes it difficult to how many people actually do get infected. It seems to me that this will be a difficult disease to understand and deal with.

The other problem is that we don't know if this coronavirus has the potential - like influenza - to remerge every year as a variant that would turn the administration of vaccines in the future a crap-shoot.
 
Xulonn said:
One of the problems I see is the apparent large number on asymptomatic and low symptom infected persons who can spread the disease. Infected young people can, without even knowing it pass the disease on to - and possibly kill - older people including their own relatives, without even knowing it. That characteristic of the disease also makes it difficult to how many people actually do get infected. It seems to me that this will be a difficult disease to understand and deal with.

The other problem is that we don't know if this coronavirus has the potential - like influenza - to remerge every year as a variant that would turn the administration of vaccines in the future a crap-shoot.
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Maybe we need to initiate an extreme lockdown across the globe for everyone 30 and over. Then let the 20 somethings go about doing their thing of going out to bars, eating out in restaurants, and attending concerts. Sports teams can still have events with their players under 30. Restaurants can be open with staff under 30.

They'll get sick, and develop their own herd immunity. And hopefully, they won't overwhelm the healthcare system. The ones who have had the virus and are no longer carriers can then take jobs where they might be exposed to those of who are.

This is just a theoretical model that is obviously not practical. But it is a controlled exposure of the population, which is what our suppression strategies are trying to do.
 
maty said:
[Spanish] https://www.elespanol.com/espana/20...ados-fallecidos-espana-mundo/474453321_0.html

Coronavirus cases in Europe - 18.03.2020

48,179 infected people in Europe, with 1,898 dead and 2,576 healed.

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Not according to this though:

https://infographics.channelnewsasi...EaiIf7klmJyU_bsyY_CsdtQuc1Q_UZ7OD2YNQKaX6VO6Q

Italy alone has over 2500 deaths and Europe, just the major afflicted ones only, count like 80,000++ infected.
That number you cited is like at least a few days behind time.
 
BDWoody said:
https://www.ibtimes.com/coronavirus...ch-group-are-more-vulnerable-covid-19-2941935

Getting more info as more data gets processed...
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Good news for older people like me (78y/o) with type O blood, but verification via further studies will be needed to confirm the conclusion. The article about this Chinese study also stated:

“If you are type A, there is no need to panic. It does not mean you will be infected 100 per cent. If you are type O, it does not mean you are absolutely safe, either. You still need to wash your hands and follow the guidelines issued by authorities,” Gao Yingdai, a researcher with the State Key Laboratory of Experimental Haematology in Tianjin, said.
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We all should know our own blood types. And here is a LINK to the Wikipedia of blood type by country with clickable column headings. It will be interesting when this is over to add the blood type variable to the other variables when analyzing the demographics of this pandemic. Not on my snippet of the highest percentage nations below is Chile, which at 8.7%, has by far the lowest population percentage with blood type A.

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Blumlein 88 said:
Your analogy doesn't fit. If instead of fleas we insert some new never before seen infestation, then it fits. You wouldn't know whether you need to burn the clothes and fumigate or burn the house down. Neither would the government. Wouldn't want the government forcing you to burn the house only to find out next month it was an over reaction that was unnecessary.
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We wouldn't need the govt to tell us what to do, I'll burn myself if it has to. That's why we worked so well.

I've got family and friends working in the hospital, they had to draw to decide which round they are going in as "suicide squad", to work in the isolation ward, if that time ever come; I've got very close friend work as FA in CX, she still had to work until there's no more work to do; My family's relatives lived in Amoy Gardens in 2003 SARS, Hong Kong, in the buildings where SARS outbreak occurred. They had to be moved and be isolated. And of around 1000 rooms, that estate alone had 321 cases.

I hate to be an ass, but you think you can act so smart just because you do not need to face those who'd lost their love ones?
So many lives at stake doing demo for you already, and you're still like bro be chill?
You seem so distanced I don't blame you for not being able to understand
I try not to cry for your attention like a crazy one, maybe you can keep that cool to yourself as well.

 
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Xulonn said:
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Good news for older people like me (78y/o) with type O blood, but verification via further studies will be needed to confirm the conclusion. The article about this Chinese study also stated:



We all should know our own blood types. And here is a LINK to the Wikipedia of blood type by country with clickable column headings. It will be interesting when this is over to add the blood type variable to the other variables when analyzing the demographics of this pandemic. Not on my snippet of the highest percentage nations below is Chile, which at 8.7%, has by far the lowest population percentage with blood type A.

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Oh dear. I am A-, which has been good for donating platelets, a blood component for which A- can be given to any patient. I normally donate every 3 weeks, probably not a good idea for me to go near a hospital then.
 
El plan de contingencia de los médicos de la UCI estima que el Covid-19 puede dejar hasta 55.000 fallecidos
[Spanish] https://www.vozpopuli.com/sanidad/cuantos-fallecidos-provocara-Covid-19-UCI_0_1337866510.html

The UCI doctors contingency plan estimates that Covid-19 can leave up to 55,000 dead
https://translate.google.es/translate?hl=&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.vozpopuli.com/sanidad/cuantos-fallecidos-provocara-Covid-19-UCI_0_1337866510.html
Although some studies have placed it between 10.5% and 0.45%, the heads of the ICU doctors have chosen to choose the 35% one because "due to the speed of the current contagion in Spain, it suggests that the rate is superior to the referred one ". In this way, they will be prepared for any possibility.
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Frank Dernie said:
Oh dear. I am A-, which has been good for donating platelets, a blood component for which A- can be given to any patient. I normally donate every 3 weeks, probably not a good idea for me to go near a hospital then.
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Take care of yourself, Frank.

When I read that news, it created a moment of euphoria for my own situation, followed immediately by a sadness knowing that my lower risk meant that someone else had a higher risk.
 
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