gikigill
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Vacuum bags would be my bet. I use a commercial bagged vacuum at home and the bags are pretty tough for what they are and can hold water too.
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What you need to know about the virus in China "2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)"
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HCQ won’t work until there’s enough supply...
Kinda like the masks not working.
I can understand why they say things how they say, but it sure is frustrating to be lied to.
I know first hand.
Kinda like the masks not working.
I can understand why they say things how they say, but it sure is frustrating to be lied to.
I know first hand.
HEPA bags, if you can get enough air through them. Maybe doubled up?
Need to do some more research.
Wonder if you could come up with something with the decathlon snorkel masks and some HEPA vacuum bags or make multiple smaller replaceable filters with smaller pieces of N95 masks?
Solves the face shield aspect as well.
What do they do in Germany?
They seem to have more control over this if the data is correct.
There are a number of YouTube videos showing folk using HEPA vacuum-cleaner bags to make masks. None of the DIY masks will actually filter out a virus, but they can keep droplets from others out of your mouth and nose and vice versa, and that is a Good Thing. Make sure when you take the mask off that you grab the ear pieces and not the front, and toss it in the laundry or whatever. Pulling it off your face with your hand grabbing the front is not what you want to do...
A true N95/AV mask is rather uncomfortable to use FWIW. Restricts airflow and traps moisture.
Some doctors have cautioned against willy-nilly use of HCQ etc. as there are risks and side effects so it should be applied on a case-by-case basis.
FWIWFM - Don
A true N95/AV mask is rather uncomfortable to use FWIW. Restricts airflow and traps moisture.
Some doctors have cautioned against willy-nilly use of HCQ etc. as there are risks and side effects so it should be applied on a case-by-case basis.
FWIWFM - Don
Then, I have to ask you. If you contract covid-19 and are starting to go south, would you consider its use to be "willy-nilly"? That is all that I and others are asking, i.e., that people going south with this have an opportunity to take it before they have to be hospitalized. Also, there is quite a risk of death if you become seriously ill with covid-19, so I'm not sure why people keep bringing up its risks.
For those interested in reading, here is a page on HCQ from the Lupus Foundation of America. There is a mention under Rare complications of cardiomyopathy at the bottom of the side effects section. Interestingly, they also point out that "most rheumatologists believe that hydroxychloroquine should be taken by people with lupus throughout their lifetime". It's hard for me to see HCQ as so dangerous that that danger would justify scaring people off of it for use with covid-19 when the rheumatologists are recommending its use in lupus patients for life.
https://www.lupus.org/resources/drug-spotlight-on-hydroxychloroquine
https://www.lupus.org/resources/drug-spotlight-on-hydroxychloroquine
Nope, maybe the collequism is not well-translated in Texas. "Willy-nilly" is giving it to everyone without assessing their risk factors or taking into account how another, sicker, patient might benefit more from its use. Particularly given its limited supply. My wife works at a local hospital, and was working ICU (RD, not RN) when the first death from COVID-19 happened here, so don't assume I am completely ignorant or uncaring. We live daily under fear she'll get the disease; she has already been exposed when a patient had it and was not tested positive until two weeks later. Fortunately our risk factors are not high but it is almost inevitable that we will get the disease.
You might not be aware that the dosage being suggested for COVID-19 is much higher than a "normal" administration. I am not a doctor but I did speak with one about it.
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Well, maybe it doesn't translate into CO, but I'm not aware of anyone advocating for "giving it to everyone without assessing their risk factors". Seems like you are back to the "willy-nilly" thing. Do you really think doctors would do that? Also, the supply is ramping up now, so I don't know how much longer it is going to be legitimate to keep preventing community physicians from prescribing HCQ for appropriate patients.
That said, I thank your wife, and you, so much for all she is doing to help save these patients, while I sit here at home. I am aware how many providers have themselves contracted the virus, and I very much hope that she does not. It is my hope that increased usage of HCQ, zinc, and other modalities in the out patient setting will mitigate the degree of illness in some number of patients, such that they do not require hospitalization, and decrease the burden on the hospital system.
Was reading some news and came across this Twitter post from a MD
"Patients with lupus, arthritis, other conditions are *already* on hydroxychloroquine.
And we are diagnosing them with covid19 *LEFT AND RIGHT*
If it does work, it‘s not as good as you hope it is."
"Patients with lupus, arthritis, other conditions are *already* on hydroxychloroquine.
And we are diagnosing them with covid19 *LEFT AND RIGHT*
If it does work, it‘s not as good as you hope it is."
That is correct. My sister-in-law with lupus is being kept alive by HQC and was prescribed a three-month supply because of hoarding/covid-related demand.
Someone with an autoimmune disease may not benefit as much as someone without the same and just being introduced to the medicine.
I’m not saying it works or not but it does make sense to try it if there’s a possibility.
Desperate times equals desperate measures sometimes.
One person’s wonder drug might be another’s worst problem. Not everyone is the same but if we’re smart about it then we might be able to find a solution.
BTW, Both of my adult daughters take it for Lupus
Locally here.... MERV 13 furnance filters were recommended to sew into DIY masks. I tried it but the big cardboard square was cumbersome.
DONH56 in a post just before had said that the dose suggested for COVID-19 was much higher, so if a higher dosage is needed, then that is a factor for why it is not helping lupus patients who are already on it?
That could be the case. And also, I'm skeptical about that report that rheumatologists are diagnosing lupus patients "left and right". Seems a little too convenient to a certain viewpoint on this issue.
Right?, It’s Twitter “official”
Just an observation.
I was looking for a country/countries where there was a large problem with mosquitoes/malaria.
Vietnam has a population of around 97-98 million.
Within the last 20 minutes or so their reported Covid-19 cases are 245 confirmed; 96 recovered; ZERO deaths.
I’m not sure if and or what they take if anything for prophylaxis for malaria and I’m not saying their reporting is truthful/accurate but it sure makes me wonder.
Any thoughts?
I was looking for a country/countries where there was a large problem with mosquitoes/malaria.
Vietnam has a population of around 97-98 million.
Within the last 20 minutes or so their reported Covid-19 cases are 245 confirmed; 96 recovered; ZERO deaths.
I’m not sure if and or what they take if anything for prophylaxis for malaria and I’m not saying their reporting is truthful/accurate but it sure makes me wonder.
Any thoughts?
Wihout trying to cast aspersions on any perceived ethnicity...
Living clean may leave you more with more susceptibility to pathogens you hadn't previously encountered:
https://www.google.com/search?q=doe...ome..69i57.19590j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
True or not, I don't know. You asked for "thoughts".
An earlier post noted the "wealthy" areas getting hammered. They, at least from outward appearances, are "clean".
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On the other hand, areas with more direct links (air travel) to and from the source (apparently China) appear to fare worse than those with less contact.
A difficult puzzle to solve. Too many moving parts for me.
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It's really gone gone almost everywhere.
Antarctica still showing none.
And the Nunavut Province of Canada, but wait till fishing season opens up.
https://www.canada4fishing.com/Nunavut/resorts.html
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"April 3: According to data collected by John Hopkins University, 18 out of the 193 United Nations-member countries claim to be coronavirus-free.
They are Comoros, Kiribati, Lesotho, the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, North Korea, Palau, Samoa, Sao Tome and Principe, the Solomon Islands, South Sudan, Tajikistan, Tonga, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, Vanuatu and Yemen.
While some of them are likely to not report any cases — such as hermetically isolated North Korea, as well as war-torn Yemen and South Sudan — others could indeed have been spared of the pandemic which has killed more than 55,000 since the first case was registered on Nov. 17 in Hubei, China.
They are, for the most part, small remote islands that normally don’t receive many tourists, and where social isolation is just part of people’s everyday lives."
https://www.nydailynews.com/coronav...0200403-ahbdc37mdbdydpl2crgpcqyqi4-story.html
Antarctica still showing none.
And the Nunavut Province of Canada, but wait till fishing season opens up.
https://www.canada4fishing.com/Nunavut/resorts.html
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"April 3: According to data collected by John Hopkins University, 18 out of the 193 United Nations-member countries claim to be coronavirus-free.
They are Comoros, Kiribati, Lesotho, the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, North Korea, Palau, Samoa, Sao Tome and Principe, the Solomon Islands, South Sudan, Tajikistan, Tonga, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, Vanuatu and Yemen.
While some of them are likely to not report any cases — such as hermetically isolated North Korea, as well as war-torn Yemen and South Sudan — others could indeed have been spared of the pandemic which has killed more than 55,000 since the first case was registered on Nov. 17 in Hubei, China.
They are, for the most part, small remote islands that normally don’t receive many tourists, and where social isolation is just part of people’s everyday lives."
https://www.nydailynews.com/coronav...0200403-ahbdc37mdbdydpl2crgpcqyqi4-story.html
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Wow, that's a quite a combination. Have you started some isolation workflows at home? We're trying to figure that out for when my wife's parental leave is over and she's back to her clinical, in-patient, and ICU rotations.
While I'll halfheartedly believe no actual cases in some isolated islands, of those obviously DPRK is lying and I doubt there is sufficient remaining public health infrastructure to support reporting in Yemen (thanks, Mister Bone Saw) or South Sudan (for internal reasons). The country in that list that really stands out is Iran's northern neighbor, Turkmenistan. No other government has been as reckless in blatantly endangering its population as that dictatorship:
https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...nistan-has-banned-use-of-the-word-coronavirus
I bet their dictator would get along famously with this...person:
In happier news, Dr. Maddow interviewed two COVID survivor, abovethelaw.com founder David Lat and his husband, on her show today. Lat was on a ventilator for 6 days. The clip is not yet online, but it is uplifting in that it shows someone having gotten the worst of this thing and come out the other side.
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