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What you need to know about the virus in China "2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)"

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Meanwhile Doctors start doing online consultation for regular cases

https://hongkongfp.com/2020/04/06/c...-online-consultation-for-non-urgent-patients/

Coronavirus: Hong Kong hospitals pilot online consultation for non-urgent patients

Some hospitals in Hong Kong have piloted an online consultation scheme using videoconferencing tools to conduct patient followups. It comes as non-urgent medical services at public hospitals are cut amid the growing coronavirus outbreak.

Doctors from six departments at the Kowloon East cluster used the videoconferencing platform Zoom to meet and offer consultations for non-urgent patients. As of last month, a total of 32 patients had tried the free service.
 
raif71 said:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52177586 - if animals/pets can get the virus, this could complicate the containment of spread as we need to be aware of the animals round us.
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Interestingly, I just went out to the mail box and there was an unknown dog meandering down the street and it passed right by me. Needless to say, I had no interaction with it.
 
Doodski said:
Went to the beer and wine store for more sippin rye and they built a separate entrance that is separated from the main store. Customers don't enter the store they request their product at the window and pay by wireless interac. Adapting to the situation. This is going to become the norm for awhile.
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Same here with a wine store. You order either in advance or direct at the door (as did I on Saturday), get the package and pay by bank transfer later (for known customers). Got a box of Montes Alpha. :)
 
Doodski said:
Wowowow. The beer and wine stores here have hundreds of different spirits, many kinds of wine and huge stacks of beer. :D If they automate all that I might go back in business doing either electro-mechanical or mechatronics repairs again. :D The process engineers would have a great time of that too.
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In the wine store here you can try almost any wine before you buy, and get information as well. A vending machine is not a solution where I would buy wine.
 
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MarcT said:
I believe this is largely what is happening in NYC, and why there are so many deaths there, i.e., they are just being left at home until it's too late. I even saw a TV interview the other day from a FDNY first responder and she said they were leaving them at home until they get to the point that they have to be intubated, and then take them to the hospital. Well, at that point, you're pretty much a goner. Very sad situation.
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Are there any reliable data about how many intubated persons die?
 
Could be one of much too many aspirants for the Darwin award.:facepalm:

Edit: I want to make sure that this is not funny, not at all. It's very sad when people die because they have been led to believe "alternative" facts.
 
Good news! Austria and Germany are planning to cancel many restrictions after Easter. People have followed instructions carefully and epidemia is in control. Infection chains must be known and contacts of every new positive person must be recognized. People must wear mask in public places.

Situation here in Finland is similar, but we don't have so strict isolation. We have roughly 2200 positive tests, 27 deaths, population 5.5 million.
In Sweden there are some 500 deaths, pop. 10 million and minimal restrictions.

https://thl.fi/en/web/infectious-diseases
 
Juhazi said:
Good news! Austria and Germany are planning to cancel many restrictions after Easter. People have followed instructions carefully and epidemia is in control. Infection chains must be known and contacts of every new positive person must be recognized. People must wear mask in public places.

Situation here in Finland is similar, but we don't have so strict isolation. We have roughly 2200 positive tests, 27 deaths, population 5.5 million.
In Sweden there are some 500 deaths, pop. 10 million and minimal restrictions.

https://thl.fi/en/web/infectious-diseases
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Wow, Finland. good job
 
MarcT said:
No, no, no. These central planning infectious disease experts are NOT your friend if you become seriously ill with covid-19. Fauci has already scared way too many doctors off of trying hydroxychloroquine for seriously ill covid-19 patients. I'll bet you 10 to 1 that all these poor folks dying in NYC were not offered or prescribed hydroxychloroquine early in their illness. Fauci and his counterparts are completely focused on conducting controlled clinical trials and treatment protocols, which will take a year or more. Meanwhile, you die.
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Please don't promote rumors or theories without data to back them up. Your assertion is directly contradicted by public news reports. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/nyregion/coronavirus-hospital-brooklyn.html

"Dr. Rosenberg and his team reviewed the status of one of the many patients who were receiving a “Covid cocktail” of the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine, held up by President Trump as a potential cure, and the antibiotic azithromycin. Dr. Rosenberg referred to it as a “maybe-maybe-this-will-work cocktail,” because only a couple of tiny studies supported its effectiveness against Covid-19. Still, the doctors were prescribing it aggressively now, early in the course of hospitalization, in the hopes that it could prevent the lung damage that led patients to need ventilators."
 
MarcT said:
Thanks. We've been locked down through the END of April here in my county in Texas. And the threats of legal action from the authorities keep escalating. I will comply with the county "stay-at-home" order for that time period, but I make no promises after that. As far as I know, our constitution has not been abrogated or abolished here, and I am not going to relinquish my very freedom over this virus.

As you say, the economy MUST be opened back up, and before not too much longer. Otherwise, there will be no way to maintain any semblance of our way of life and standard of living. Poverty, with its attendant adverse sociological effects, can and will kill as many or more than the virus. I spoke yesterday with the owner of the gym where I exercise, and he doesn't sound all that confident that his business will survive this. It's so sad because he is a fantastic guy and business owner. He told me to just not pay my April payment and we'll see what happens in May.
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100% agree!
 
UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson in intensive care after coronavirus symptoms worsen.
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Just the news - no further comment...
 
MediumRare said:
Please don't promote rumors or theories without data to back them up. Your assertion is directly contradicted by public news reports. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/nyregion/coronavirus-hospital-brooklyn.html

"Dr. Rosenberg and his team reviewed the status of one of the many patients who were receiving a “Covid cocktail” of the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine, held up by President Trump as a potential cure, and the antibiotic azithromycin. Dr. Rosenberg referred to it as a “maybe-maybe-this-will-work cocktail,” because only a couple of tiny studies supported its effectiveness against Covid-19. Still, the doctors were prescribing it aggressively now, early in the course of hospitalization, in the hopes that it could prevent the lung damage that led patients to need ventilators."
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Please don't mis-characterize what I have said. What I have said is:

"I'll bet you 10 to 1 that all these poor folks dying in NYC were not offered or prescribed hydroxychloroquine early in their illness." And I stand by my suspicion that they were not offered or prescribed hydroxychloroquine early in their illness. The report you cited says that they were being prescribed it early in the course of hospitalization. There is a big difference because by the time they are hospitalized, the virus has already done significant damage. And, yes, I am aware of the potential adverse effects, but that is why you have a primary care physician to prescribe it for you, if appropriate.

The problem is that the CDC has apparently "locked down" hydroxychloroquine for sale to retail pharmacies. I stopped by a local pharmacy here and was told that they cannot get hydroxychloroquine any more because of the CDC. The lady told me that the pharmacy owner had been on conference calls with both of our US senators about this problem. I am merely arguing that community doctors should be free to prescribe it for appropriate patients before they deteriorate to the point that they need admission to a hospital. If you wait for Dr. Fauci to get behind this, you'll be waiting a long time.
 
The economic impacts are large, but Poverty will not kill as many or more than the virus.
 
Wes said:
The economic impacts are large, but Poverty will not kill as many or more than the virus.
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Poverty leads to more crime, some of it being violent. How are you so sure about this?
 
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