They look nice but I worry about lack of wave guide impacting directivity. And at $1,200 is a lot more money that I can bet on it myself.
Good point on the lack of a wave guide.
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Good point on the lack of a wave guide.
what about KS Digital? any chance of seeing a review of yours on their C88, C55, A100/200 series?They look nice but I worry about lack of wave guide impacting directivity. And at $1,200 is a lot more money that I can bet on it myself.
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Nice looking speakers,very "eco friendly" membrane's.
They are reinforced with hemp fibers.
They do not bleach membranes(like Yamaha,old JBL),or even worse in my book,to dye them.
I guess they don't want to colour the sound)))
vintage infinity, kef, and paradigm as well... gotta be some floating around the forum...
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The results might not be pretty ...
A pair of Time Windows on ebay for $300. Not a design in accord with modern principles ...
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Well, unless the units are in bad condition, I think otherwise. Seems they were what nowadays is called MLTL and the angled frontal can also be found in some Allison and AR designs
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Yes, and the best ones of Epicure
That guy was incredible, I read about him and his interview in Stereophile magazine.
An entire discovery is named after him(Allison effect)
But he didn't first to discover the thing, he simply devoted a lot of time to measuring and understanding the problem, and how best to approach it.
That's when his best works were created.Search
A Tribute to Roy F. Allison (1927-2016)
Through the years, Mr. Roy Allison was highly regarded in his field and will be missed in the high-fidelity loudspeaker industry as one of the premiere designers of the formative audio years.
www.audioholics.com
Sub's near the wall cause effect doesn't effect that range of frequency, preferably behind the main speakers,and main speaker as far as you can from any wall to minimize the effect. (same bumps and dips but at different places and important thing less pronounced)
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The Palmer Orbit 11
Without a doubt, the speaker that’s come out of nowhere that boasts performance that seems impossible for $899 each.
Obviously, it has to have limitations and I’m very interested in finding out what they are.
Put them on the test bench!
Without a doubt, the speaker that’s come out of nowhere that boasts performance that seems impossible for $899 each.
Obviously, it has to have limitations and I’m very interested in finding out what they are.
Put them on the test bench!
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Review of the creative pebble would be interesting. I have set for my kid and it sounds ok.
To hope it doesn't crash and burn like
Highly doubt it.To hope it doesn't crash and burn like View attachment 511900Chesky LC 1View attachment 511901SpecificationView attachment 511902Tessaletion diffraction control tehnology doesn't seem to help much
Ouch! Wow, you did not need to bring that debacle up.
Here’s a thing, though… being of German extraction and having worked at SAP a while with Germans, if a company that already makes what seems to be excellent music recording peripherals decides to make ridiculously fantastic speakers that obviously are designed in Deutschland, but, most likely, made in some Asian locality, they could be real.
There is some type of genetic thing that predisposes us German types to want to make really great $#it. It kicked in for me in my 20’s.
Both a blessing and a curse.
Oh, yeah, tessellation diffraction control technology is REAL. Its mathematical formula is hidden underneath Jimmy Hoffa’s body in a secret chamber under Grant’s Tomb.
Nadam se da se neće srušiti i izgorjeti kao View attachment 511900Chesky LC 1View attachment 511901SpecifikacijaView attachment 511902Tehnologija kontrole difrakcije tesalecije ne čini se da puno pomaže.
Okay, I admit that I know nothing about that company's products and history.
I was just looking at this speaker design and all the lights come on.
There's something called "box volume" and how loud it gets...
The old speakers weren't that big for nothing.
I see that these are active speakers and that they are tuned using EQ,also no ports or passive driver?
Will see,I would like to know how they measure...
Concur. I'm up to buy a pair and ship in for review.
Might be tricky to choose which one to test, it's a big line up:
| Model | Price | Size (in) | Drivers | Claimed FR | Claimed SNR | Power RMS (Peak) |
| Creative Pebble | $25 | 4.8 x 4.5 x 4.5 | 2″ Full-range + PR | 100 - 17,000 Hz | 86 dB | 4.4W |
| Creative Pebble V2 | $33 | 4.5 x 4.8 x 4.5 | 2″ Full-range + PR | 100 - 17,000 Hz | 75 dB | 8W (16W) |
| Creative Pebble V3 | $40 | 4.8 x 4.7 x 4.6 | 2.25″ Full-range + PR | 100 - 17,000 Hz | 75 dB | 8W (16W) |
| Creative Pebble Pro | $65 | 4.84 x 4.84 x 4.65 | 2.25″ Full-range + PR | 80–20,000 Hz | ≥ 75 dB | 30W (60W) |
| Creative Pebble X | $90 | 5.49 x 5.2 x 5.35 | 2.75″ Full-range + PR | 60–20,000 Hz | > 93dB | 30W (60W) |
| Creative Pebble Nova | $240 | 5.87 x 5.94 x 6.02" | Coaxial 3" + 1" + PR | 55Hz - 20,000Hz | 93dB | 50W (100 W) |
Connectivity varies by model. Everything has USB-C, some add 1/8" aux inputs or Bluetooth. Some models have lower rated power when powered by USB bus vs a dedicated USB PD Adapter, I've listed the highest power available. Some models feature RGBLED lights, better bluetooth, and different stand options.
Personally, here's my priority for reviews:
- Creative Pebble Nova: unique form factor competing with 3-4" powered monitors (e.g. Adam Audio D3V, iLoud Micro Monitor, Kali UNF).
- Creative Pebble X: biggest drivers you can get in the lineup below $100/pair
- Creative Pebble V2: basically the original but with twice the power, which is obviously worth the $8 over the original.
It was surpyringing hard to find the details for the Nova. The rest of the lineup has full tech specs on the creative site, but I had to look further afield for the Nova. It's obviously trying to be "The high end one" so you can feel superior to your friends with the "normal ones." I doubt it performs 2.7x better than the Pebble X... but then again it's the only model in the range with a coaxial driver instead of a single full range.
Creative also has a range of DAC/headphone amps. They offer the Sound Blaster X5 solo for $280 or as a bundle with the Nova for $480. Could be interesting to test that, but I don't care enough to buy one. To me the whole point of the Pebble line is the direct USB connection to your computer. Once you start thinking about dedicated DACs, it's a whole new game and 10x the spend.
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The obvious next ones up are the Palmer Orbit 11's. But the Audio First Design Cadentia 3 should also be high on the priority list.
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We've already got measurements from the manufacturer and confirmation from Erin, so I'd rather the slot went to something not already measured.
As much as I love reading, looking at Erin's graphs and reviews, lately he has stopped measuring the basic near field measurements of drivers?
Also no more globe diagrams, only "normalized" 2D diagram that is really hard to see resonance of box, ports and lack of real sound pressure(SPL).
See here for example a review of the Klipsch Heresy speakers.
He even took out the woofer and measured Thiel and Small parameters,X max and so on...
I'm very sorry about that....
For what it’s worth :
I have Pebble Pro and I just purchased those mysterious Pebble Nova.
Pebble Pro is amazing, a real pleasure for casual YT listening, small form factor, usb-c and BT input, very handy front volume knob and buttons etc, but huge lack of bass and high mids too strong. Love it, but it’s too far from decent audio listening.
Pebble Nova is a completely different speaker, much bigger, heavier. Serious. I’m overall very satisfied - it’s worth the price jump IMO (got it for 210€ vs 60€ Pro). Clear and dry bass (thanks to the close & spherical enclosure), same very rich and detailed mids and excellent dispersion, truly balanced sound after setting the buit-in EQ. I find myself spending hours rediscovering my albums just because it’s a real pleasure.
Personal cons : slightly too large below my display + touch-control buttons less handy than Pebble Pro front panel.
Since Nova comes with a buit-in EQ, I also realized how important is the EQ in such behind-the-monitor near-field setup (using HouseCurve for measurement on top of my ears on well known tracks).
Now that I got this, I’d be curious to check Pebble X because it has a buit-in EQ too and a 2.75’ speaker (vs 3’ for Nova). The ES could help flattening the curve and reach a decent audio performance while being way cheaper and slightly smaller than Nova. Saying « could » because it’s still unlikely to get a flat response curve with a single (and cheap) loudspeaker. But it’s worth trying IMO, considering the price diff.
I might purchase it when there is a good discount, just for testing.
Unfortunately I don’t have serious audio measurement tool so I can’t help more than this subjective comment.
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