What seventies / eighties Mono Film and TV microphone could this be?

[Herbert]

Hi,
I am using a Sennheiser MKH-417 shotgun mic and made a full documentary fearure with it:
Trailer:

Complete feature:

KEEP MOVING - IN BEWEGUNG BLEIBEN - MAIN MOVIE / HAUPTFILM

German with subtitles in English, 中文简体, Español, Français, Ελληνική, Polski.Deutsch, mit Untertiteln in Englisch, Chinesisch, Spanisch, Französisch, Griechisch, Polnisch.KEEP MOVING, made over a period of 12 years and filmed on two continents,premiered at the Berlin International Film Festival...

fishermansframe.gumroad.com

The MKH-417 is a working horse with a signature sound, but sounds off-axis sound bad of course.
Just two days ago I stumbled about a making of of "Shining" and was stunned by the good
sound of the mic used. Also the setup is intersting, as Vivian Kubrick filmed with a 16mm Aaton with an audio recorder
attached to it. No boom operator, no sound guy, just her. Extraordinary in 1978, common today.
Does anyone has an idea what mic it could have been?
Again, definately not a MKH-417, the mic is too short.
As it was the UK, it also must have been a Mic in common use there.
Here are two photos, in one, she put foam around the mic.

Could be that the day / exterior shot / second mic was an MKH-417, the shot is from "Full Metal Jacket"
Here it is what the Mic I am searching for sounds like. any ideas?

 

[stoo23]

Hmm, perhaps an MKH435 ?? We had a number of them in the rental department when I was at John Barry's and they were a particularly nice sounding and versatile microphone.
The overall Size seems about right but I have never seen a Dark one ??

 

[Herbert]

Thanks a lot! But I have the feeling, the mic pictured in the "Shining" shoot misses the grilles at the sides. There should also be a white lettering.
Searching pictures with google did show up on black version, but from ebay, so this might be an error...
Unfortunately no hint whether the equipment Mrs Kubrick used provided phantom power or not, this would narrow down the search.
As far as I understand, the MKH-435 runs on 12V...

 

[stoo23]

Yeah, I was concerned about the Slots on the Sides too. Voltage depends on the model
From the stuff 'taped' to her camera, I'd venture the Mic was Powered as the unit is an older Micron unit and needed 9 or 12 volts from recollection, so was probably powered by the Micron unit.

 

[NekoM]

Have you dialed back a digit and considered the shorter MKH-416 ?

 

[Herbert]

Have you dialed back a digit and considered the shorter MKH-416 ?

In case you did not joke: It was a typo. I own the MKH-416. It longer and the sound very distict, with an emphasis around 3kHz. She did not use it for sure.

 

[jindy30]

Hi,
I am using a Sennheiser MKH-417 shotgun mic and made a full documentary fearure with it:
Trailer:

Complete feature:

KEEP MOVING - IN BEWEGUNG BLEIBEN - MAIN MOVIE / HAUPTFILM

German with subtitles in English, 中文简体, Español, Français, Ελληνική, Polski.Deutsch, mit Untertiteln in Englisch, Chinesisch, Spanisch, Französisch, Griechisch, Polnisch.KEEP MOVING, made over a period of 12 years and filmed on two continents,premiered at the Berlin International Film Festival...

fishermansframe.gumroad.com

The MKH-417 is a working horse with a signature sound, but sounds off-axis sound bad of course.
Just two days ago I stumbled about a making of of "Shining" and was stunned by the good
sound of the mic used. Also the setup is intersting, as Vivian Kubrick filmed with a 16mm Aaton with an audio recorder
attached to it. No boom operator, no sound guy, just her. Extraordinary in 1978, common today.
Does anyone has an idea what mic it could have been?
Again, definately not a MKH-417, the mic is too short.
As it was the UK, it also must have been a Mic in common use there.
Here are two photos, in one, she put foam around the mic.
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Could be that the day / exterior shot / second mic was an MKH-417, the shot is from "Full Metal Jacket"
Here it is what the Mic I am searching for sounds like. any ideas?

Very doubtful that thjs was the set up for the movie and that their was no sound department. Thjs vamera.m I fht have been uaed for the running shots, and Behjnd the scenes, but nothing else.

 

[Herbert]

I am not talking about the movie at all, just behind the scenes. And Nicholson gets wired in the BTS footage. BTWYou would be surprised, how much dialogue is NOT from the take you see on the screen. Also very often so called wild tracks are recorded for the sound crew, directly after the camera has wrapped for closer miking. So the mics do not necessarily need to be directional.

 

[ChrisG]

Have you dialed back a digit and considered the shorter MKH-416 ?

Could dial it back another digit and make it an MKH406. I've got one here. Sounds nice, and looks the right kind of size.

Chris

 

[Herbert]

Many thanks!
Could be, but it is hard to see whether it is grilles in front of the Mic (406) or a mesh.
Also, the prominent Sennheiser lettering should be visible...
Is the sound of your Sennheiser comparable with the "Making of Shining"?