What is the point of CD rips?

[Doodski]

I'm glad that some people have trouble-free service. Experiences vary widely, however. I had cable for years and when it worked, it did work - but it was often affected by upgrade/maintenance outages, weather, incompetent technicians, physical cable connectivity issues, etc. I finally had enough and went "5G" wireless. It still has its issues, but is generally more reliable and more robust as there is nothing physical to disconnect/break between the towers and the end customer.

Yes, I have 5G+ on the cel tel and it's fast as can be. On my desktop PC I depend on reliable fast service so I would not tolerate outages in my area more than maybe one or two per year. I don't really remember the last outage other than a few days ago at about 2am there was a reboot of my gateway/modem.

 

[Doodski]

While at least I don't have to use DSL any more as I first did when I moved here 10 years ago, these days I might get 60 mbps down (think it says up to 100 but....) , 10 up....but reliability varies, it goes down for a bit once a month but a fair number of little momentary hits that are very annoying for USD 92/month. There's no other choice, tho (aside from going satellite or back to dsl). Yours sounds wonderful.

I enjoy my ISP connection and desktop pooder a lot... LoL.

 

[Chrispy]

I enjoy my ISP connection and desktop pooder a lot... LoL.

We also don't have 5G here either fwiw. I've never had speeds like yours....

 

[Doodski]

We also don't have 5G here either fwiw. I've never had speeds like yours....

Big files move fast... Especially sources with files that have a good download speed for me.

 

[mhardy6647]

Amen. How LPs are surviving is beyond me.

Well...

Cassettes are making a small comeback, why?

It seems that cassettes are making a small comeback. There have been some new portable cassette players that have been released. In addition people like You Tuber Mary Spender just released some of her own music on cassette which is just one example of younger people being interested in...

www.audiosciencereview.com

(i.e., it gets worse)

 

[Snarfie]

Well Starlink is on the way. Some here use it and like it.

I guess happy few with deep pockets.

 

[EJ3]

Amen. How LPs are surviving is beyond me.

I have vinyl (or whatever it really was back then) from 1927-now (& still getting more a few times a year) as I do with CD's. I have divested myself of music that I don't like, or is "just OK" and still have over 400 LP's and another 300+ CD's to choose from. If I want to stack LP's, my DUAL 1229 will do that, if I want. (usually I just want to play one side, take a break, & flip it over) using my Technics SL-M3.
Nothing I have as been "ripped" to anything: yet. (I do want to rip it all to a NAS next year).
But I have large UPS units in each room (can run a refrigerator/freezer for 2 days, as well as my stereo and the rest of the house [not the AC or Heat]).
I have internet for the computer even if I have no power (until the cell towers go down).
No TV & no streaming devices (and see no point in it).
If I can't own it & have it to use it for when I want to use it, power or no power, I don't want it.

 

[Sal1950]

CD quality streams, often of the worst sounding releases / remasters available.

For pop music that's very true, it's hard to find anything beyond the heaviest of loudness wars victims.
Also I am fussy about what mixes of each album I listen to when there's a choice, there mostly is.
Beside my having over 1k of HiRez 4, 5.1, and immersive channel recordings in my collection that are not on streaming.
But yes, if you rip your discs and don't keep regular backups, if you loose them, you were asking for it.

 

[Snarfie]

Are there here people who rip there LP's to preserve them. Do you hear any difference in a blind test. Only big difference i hear when i remove the cracks with audacity and or when it is neccecaey to get rid of clipping for the better. The same with clipped cd's.

 

[Peterinvan]

Wait till Tidal gets bought by a venture capitol group and your collection vanishes

Backup your Tidal playlists to a .CSV file that can be imported to another service should this event happen. I used a trial version of Roon.

 

[Snoopy]

Amen. How LPs are surviving is beyond me.

The same way CDs will keep surviving. For music, masters and bonus tracks that are not available on streaming or modern reissues in whatever format.

For example the old Bowie RCA, ryko masters and a few bonus tracks you don’t find on today’s streaming service.

And that’s a very popular artist. Now consider the stuff that not millions of people are into that never got a CD or digital release. Or where there maybe ever was 1 CD release some 30 years ago that is OOP till today.

I’m a huge believer in streaming, qobuz, roon etc but I’m collecting more on more CDs, SACDs, Blu-ray’s to rip them and LPs to listen to as well for various reasons.

 

[617]

The same way CDs will keep surviving. For music, masters and bonus tracks that are not available on streaming or modern reissues in whatever format.

For example the old Bowie RCA, ryko masters and a few bonus tracks you don’t find on today’s streaming service.

And that’s a very popular artist. Now consider the stuff that not millions of people are into that never got a CD or digital release. Or where there maybe ever was 1 CD release some 30 years ago that is OOP till today.

I’m a huge believer in streaming, qobuz, roon etc but I’m collecting more on more CDs, SACDs, Blu-ray’s to rip them and LPs to listen to as well for various reasons.

Some of those 'extra' tracks on the Ryko versions are like top 20 Bowie songs.

 

[Sal1950]

Are there here people who rip there LP's to preserve them. Do you hear any difference in a blind test.

I did all mine in Audacity strait to 16/44.1 FLAC back in 2010, never used a blind test but did check a number of
my rips and never could hear any differences.
In the end I found it all be a big waste of time, most of them I've replaced with lossless non-compressed digital files
that are totally noiseless and sound better.

 

[mhardy6647]

I have vinyl (or whatever it really was back then) from 1927-now (& still getting more a few times a year) as I do with CD's. I have divested myself of music that I don't like, or is "just OK" and still have over 400 LP's and another 300+ CD's to choose from. If I want to stack LP's, my DUAL 1229 will do that, if I want. (usually I just want to play one side, take a break, & flip it over) using my Technics SL-M3.
Nothing I have as been "ripped" to anything: yet. (I do want to rip it all to a NAS next year).
But I have large UPS units in each room (can run a refrigerator/freezer for 2 days, as well as my stereo and the rest of the house [not the AC or Heat]).
I have internet for the computer even if I have no power (until the cell towers go down).
No TV & no streaming devices (and see no point in it).
If I can't own it & have it to use it for when I want to use it, power or no power, I don't want it.

1920s records should have been shellac.

 

[EJ3]

1920s records should have been shellac.

Brittle shellac (I was aware of that: but a number of people call them something else, I don't know if it's some sort of regional aberration or if they're unaware of what they are made from).

 

[mhardy6647]

Shellac is interesting stuff.

 

[Sal1950]

Shellac is interesting stuff.

Sure is. Growing up I always thought of shellac as a type of varnish you used on woodwork.
Now I just did a Gaagle search and found out shellac is really bug crap!
Learning sumpin new every day.

 

[MattHooper]

Amen. How LPs are surviving is beyond me.

Because they offer different characteristics from streaming that many have found to be valuable.

Some people discovered that “convenience “ isn’t the last word in what they value.

 

[MattHooper]

I was reading an article in the guardian about the growing market for counterfeit records and vinyl. Article spoke about bootlegging and counterfeiting through the years and had this paragraph on CD. I didn’t know this:

“But the advent of the CD caused a much bigger problem: the new format proved to be so easy to duplicate and manufacture that counterfeit CDs of huge-selling albums amounted to a massive industry, with the involvement of organised crime. In 2001, in fact, two out of every five music recordings sold worldwide were reckoned to be illegal copies.”

 

[EJ3]

Sure is. Growing up I always thought of shellac as a type of varnish you used on woodwork.
Now I just did a Gaagle search and found out shellac is really bug crap!
Learning sumpin new every day.

I once made a model sailboat (from my own plans when I was about 8) and used a piece of cardboard folded over a small metal bar as a weighted keel. After I stapled the cardboard around the edges & folded some of the edge to glue onto the bottom of the to be sailboat, I used shellac to waterproof the keel. It worked great!