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What iem should I get for gaming?
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I don't play games so don't know precisely if there are specific needs, maybe the Kinera Wyvern Pro can be a nice choice for it's peculiar microphone
https://kineraaudio.com/products/celest-wyvern-pro?variant=44660483194932
also it shouldn't have bloated bass overpowering the positional audio effects
https://kineraaudio.com/products/celest-wyvern-pro?variant=44660483194932
also it shouldn't have bloated bass overpowering the positional audio effects
Roland68
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With the TRUTHEAR x Crinacle Zero: Red and the 7Hz x Crinacle Zero:2 you have two in-ear monitors in your budget that are excellent and have also been excellently tested.
If you have the possibility to apply EQ to them, even better.
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Those are the exact ones I was torn about lol, the zero2 is actually a few bucks cheaper than zero, should I go for it?
Roland68
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I have both (and a few more).
The RED is slightly more detailed than the Zero:2, but that doesn't always have to be a good thing.
You should keep in mind that the Zero:2, especially with EQ, is just as good as previous "brand" IEMs for €200 - €300.
To make it easier for you (grin ;o), I can also bring the Moondrop LAN into play, one of my favorite IEMs. For me personally, it sounds perfect even without EQ and I find it very relaxed. By the way, the housing is made entirely of stainless steel, powder-coated and is also smaller than the others. There is also a beryllium-plated dome composite diaphragm with an N52 high-performance neodymium magnetic circuit.
I just ordered another one as a replacement, as the LAN is currently on offer at Amazon DE for €33.99.
By the way, Moondrop has an interesting USB-C FREEDSP cable with micro.
You can also convert the LAN to Bluetooth, like any IEM with a pluggable cable.
The trend is towards third, fourth, fifth...IEM anyway
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How is detail not always a good thing?I have both (and a few more).
The RED is slightly more detailed than the Zero:2, but that doesn't always have to be a good thing.
You should keep in mind that the Zero:2, especially with EQ, is just as good as previous "brand" IEMs for €200 - €300.
To make it easier for you (grin ;o), I can also bring the Moondrop LAN into play, one of my favorite IEMs. For me personally, it sounds perfect even without EQ and I find it very relaxed. By the way, the housing is made entirely of stainless steel, powder-coated and is also smaller than the others. There is also a beryllium-plated dome composite diaphragm with an N52 high-performance neodymium magnetic circuit.
I just ordered another one as a replacement, as the LAN is currently on offer at Amazon DE for €33.99.
By the way, Moondrop has an interesting USB-C FREEDSP cable with micro.
You can also convert the LAN to Bluetooth, like any IEM with a pluggable cable.
The trend is towards third, fourth, fifth...IEM anyway
And thank you really made easier for me
kemmler3D
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"Detail" can sometimes mean exaggerated highs, if you are someone that experiences listening fatigue then "more detail" may not be good for you.
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Is it the case in the zero red?
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Mostly comp, so footsteps matter
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Yeah but i dont really know which one to get, actually its for my friend so i want something hell like. I already told him to get the zero red and he orderd it but we decided to cancel once we saw there’s a version 2. I told him not to rush until i ask around and see what peoplee think
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yeah fair enough. i don't think they'll be disappointed with whatever they get
Roland68
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I listened to all three IEMs again and would definitely recommend the TRUTHEAR x Crinacle Zero:Red for your application. For me it is simply a little clearer/more transparent and everything is a little easier to locate, regardless of EQ.
Another note, TRUTHEAR and 7Hz (7Hertz) are 2 different companies and have nothing to do with each other. The similarity in the names of the IEMs is purely coincidental.
The TRUTHEAR x Crinacle Zero:Red is the second version of the Truthear x Crinacle Zero (blue) and the 7Hz x Crinacle Zero:2 is the second version of the 7Hz Salnotes Zero
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I don't want wires hanging especially when playing. Maybe try JBL Quantum TWS, made specifically for gaming, with a dongle for non BT zero lag connection, comfortable, long lasting battery. JBL is quite Harman compliant usually but haven't seen these specifically measured. I like them, they sound similar with other JBL TWSs (live pro 2, tune flex etc).
I don't mind the cable of cabled IEMs when I game, as long as I can disconnect their cable easily when needed. I have been thinking of trying the Moondrop Little White though. It should have enough battery for longer sessions, and should be rechargable whilst playing if need be. Currently with my wired IEMs, if I need to move away from the PC quickly, I tend to just disconnect the cable and leave the IEM in my ear and the connector in my pocket - it is faster than removing and inserting the IEM into my ears again.
As for gaming, I'd argue that as long as you get an IEM with decent enough sound quality the most important aspect is the fit 'n comfort in your own ear. Gaming sessions tend to last a long while and it'd be inconvenient to switch to another IEM or headphone mid game due to discomfort. However, it's impossible for us to say what IEM will, and what IEM will not be comfortable to you (or your friend) so some trial and error is required on your part here. I've noted that IEMs with large nozzles and shells tend to be more polarizing than IEMs with a smaller profile, but that is anecdotal. What personally annoys me is inherently unergonomic designs such as the 7Hz Zero:2, with plenty of sharp corners and lines. While I can wear the Zero:2 without discomfort, no ear really fits such an IEM design better than IEM designs with smoother lines.
As for the sound profile for gaming, if you are playing on a PC you can tune the sound to whatever you like using EQ (perhaps using EqAPO). I find clarity in games to be almost 1:1 proportional to how much bass an IEM has. If you find an IEM that you like fit-wise and you find it to be muddy sounding - just lower the bass using your equalizer of choice. IEMs capable of immense lower end output are nice for casual gaming though.
Right now I am using the KZ Saga, with some mild EQ it sounds more or less like the Zero:2 to my ears - but they're more comfortable to me than the Zero:2. YMMV on the comfort front.
Zero (Red) and Zero (Blue) are NOT the first generation compared to Zero:2, they are different products from different company. They are more expensive for a reason - they seem to have a better build quality, in particular SIGNIFICANTLY better cable (cable is junk on Zero:2). I've never tried the red variety but Zero Blue after EQ sounds better to me compared to Zero:2 (with and without EQ) - it sounds spacious, kind of like open headphones. However, Zero Red and Blue both have very thick nozzles and in general are bulkier, so may be a poor fit for small ears. And without EQ Zero:2 sounds better than Zero Blue (not sure about Red). Oh, one more thing - these Red and Blue zeroes a VERY sensitive to the impedance of the source, they may sound bass heavy plugged directly into computer headphone jack.
Agreed, 7Hz Zero 2 might be very nicely tuned for it's price but a lot of people have reported fit issues, the nozzles extend a only a small distance leading to a shallow fit. Its typical for IEMs under $35. Spending an extra $20 for a IEM with a properly extended nozzles makes more sense than the cope of paying the same $20 on third party tips made out of extra sticky material.
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