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I'd certainly be happy to test one of these!
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I'd certainly be happy to test one of these!
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Very few CD players had this DAC, so it'd be interesting to test it!
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I thought the Pioneer PD-D9 would be the last on SACD player on my list, for a good moment, but no, my road crossed an ancient Denon DVD-A11 that plays the SACD too. It seems to have an interesting multichannel conversion, based on BurrBrown DACs, as usual with Denon. It will require time for a thorough test!
This one got an optional DSD to PCM conversion in a multichannel chip (NPC SM5819), as well as the ability to play DVD-A. The front analogue output stages are more elaborate than on the surround, center and sub output.
The Denon DVD-A11 seems to be the model preceding the Denon DVD-3910. On Hifiengine, the specifications seem identical except for the HDCD, HDMI, and the weight of the devices.
Regarding the DVD-3910, if you want the measurements I can provide them since I have one. I even wonder if I haven't already sent them to you
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The Denon DAV-A11 and the Denon DVD-3910 were different devices in significantly different device classes and internal construction, including price. Both devices were released in 2004.
The DAV-A11 was more complex in development and also featured higher-quality components and a more sophisticated DSP.
The successor to the DVD-3910 was the Denon DVD-3930. The DAV-A11 had no direct successor; the next larger device was the more expensive DVD-A 1 XV, released in 2005.
J’ai parcouru les manuels d’entretien du DVD-3910 et du DVD-A11 et j’ai remarqué qu’il y a des similitudes entre les deux appareils. Un certain nombre de puces sont identiques, mais il y a aussi des différences. Le DVD-A11 semble être sorti avant le DVD-3910, et Denon n’a pas nécessairement tout repensé à partir de zéro lors de la conception du DVD-3910.
P.S. : J’utilise Google Translate, donc désolé si parfois le sens de mes phrases peut être mal compris
P.S. : J’utilise Google Translate, donc désolé si parfois le sens de mes phrases peut être mal compris
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Roland68
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The Denon DVD-3910 is based on the DVD-3800 and is its further development.
The DAV-A11 was the more affordable successor to the overpriced DVD-9000. The THX label was then only available on the DVD-A1 XV.
These devices are unlikely to differ significantly in terms of audio, and probably not even in terms of sound.
In terms of sound, these devices were no better than the older SACD players at the time, for example, for €750/DM1500.
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Rega Apollo, a mid-sized top-loader, just because I like both design concepts.
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NAD C-515 BEE or C-516 BEE.
Not as fancy as some of the other players discussed here, but I finally got around to posting my tests of the Panasonic MASH portable.
Does the $20 thrift find bottom of the line 1992 JVC 5 disk changer live up to the legend of its single-disk big brother, the XL-Z335? Probably not quite (1-bit PEM here vs 8-bit according to the specs), but stay tuned...
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Next big boy on the bench:
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Hi, anyone has any info about this little boy?
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Hi, anyone has any info about this little boy?
Looking forward to a test. I hope that the issues measured in the DM13 test have been solved and it becomes an affordable alternative to SMSL PL200.
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Beside high end players, it would be fun to test some cheap cd players, to see if heavy cases, multi power supplies, shielding etc do make any difference..
I had a Sharp DX 670, it was very good sounding, and the laser would pick any cd, but man it was cheap..
Inside was practically empty, just a small pcb and a psu, the drive was plastic but ok, it has a Sanyo dac, and the sound IMO was better than some modern dacs of today..
I had a Sharp DX 670, it was very good sounding, and the laser would pick any cd, but man it was cheap..
Inside was practically empty, just a small pcb and a psu, the drive was plastic but ok, it has a Sanyo dac, and the sound IMO was better than some modern dacs of today..
Hi Guys ..
A few things to point out here please as I've actually owned these models ..
The Denon DVD-3930 was the direct successor and somewhat short lived model to the 3910 !... I had both models and the 3930 Denon definitely stepped up the internal hardware and build quality and it had 2 independent PSU the 3910 did not ..also to note the 3930 had a lot of the tech imported down from it's bigger brother A1XV just half the price take the top of both models and your quite clearly see the big differences between the two.
Moving on again I own both models Denon DVD-A1 in my humble opinion still edges the A1XV especially when it comes down to the Channel Pure Direct mode playback the A1XV is outstanding but the A1 has the famous Burr-Brown 1704 DAC's...in Dual-mono R2R configuration mode for direct Stereo playback their is also a lot more attention to details with the A1 than the A1XV model ..again the A1XV is still an outstanding machine and it was a later model and had far more digital circuitry implemented in comparison to the A1..So Denon was starting to scale some things back budget wise by the time the A1XV came out .
Lastly the DVD-A11 was the direct successor to the A1 ...their is absolutely no comparison whatsoever from the 3910 and 3910 .
The A1 in particular was created and produced as an absolute Denon's Reference model !!! The 3910 and 3930 were flagship grade not reference.
The A11 is also another outstanding model but by this time compared to it's predecessor the A1 Denon had started to make some sacrifices/trade-offs for budget again due to advances one of being SACD more digital circuitry and licensing agreements so side by side again attention to detail internal and external their are significant differences!!!
However both A1 and A11 were designed as Denon Reference Grade models .
So it went Flagship Grade approx £1200-£1500
2800
2900
3910
3930
Reference Grade £2.5k+
A1
A11
A1XV
A1UD
Personally despite the A1XV being Denons last stand and Denons Golden period and a super nice model design and electronics...I still personally believe
the "A1" looking back was Denons "true" finest ever model produced and most expensive and finest ever sounding sonic wise that's just my own view and opinion. 
A few things to point out here please as I've actually owned these models ..
The Denon DVD-3930 was the direct successor and somewhat short lived model to the 3910 !... I had both models and the 3930 Denon definitely stepped up the internal hardware and build quality and it had 2 independent PSU the 3910 did not ..also to note the 3930 had a lot of the tech imported down from it's bigger brother A1XV just half the price take the top of both models and your quite clearly see the big differences between the two.
Moving on again I own both models Denon DVD-A1 in my humble opinion still edges the A1XV especially when it comes down to the Channel Pure Direct mode playback the A1XV is outstanding but the A1 has the famous Burr-Brown 1704 DAC's...in Dual-mono R2R configuration mode for direct Stereo playback their is also a lot more attention to details with the A1 than the A1XV model ..again the A1XV is still an outstanding machine and it was a later model and had far more digital circuitry implemented in comparison to the A1..So Denon was starting to scale some things back budget wise by the time the A1XV came out .
Lastly the DVD-A11 was the direct successor to the A1 ...their is absolutely no comparison whatsoever from the 3910 and 3910 .
The A1 in particular was created and produced as an absolute Denon's Reference model !!! The 3910 and 3930 were flagship grade not reference.
The A11 is also another outstanding model but by this time compared to it's predecessor the A1 Denon had started to make some sacrifices/trade-offs for budget again due to advances one of being SACD more digital circuitry and licensing agreements so side by side again attention to detail internal and external their are significant differences!!!
However both A1 and A11 were designed as Denon Reference Grade models .
So it went Flagship Grade approx £1200-£1500
2800
2900
3910
3930
Reference Grade £2.5k+
A1
A11
A1XV
A1UD
Personally despite the A1XV being Denons last stand and Denons Golden period and a super nice model design and electronics...I still personally believe
the "A1" looking back was Denons "true" finest ever model produced and most expensive and finest ever sounding sonic wise that's just my own view and opinion.
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Maybe you could cease the opportunity to test it from a 24 bits encoded test disc also if you would be able to burn an audio-only DVD-V with the high-resolution version of the test files from which you have created your CD test?
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