What CD Player would you like to see tested?

[mustang_flht]

Hi Roland, I'm not an Anglo-Saxon speaker, but a French speaker, so I apologize if my English is a bit poor and confusing.
The TEAC 500 series CD players (505T and 507T) actually have the 5020A mounted in a floating chassis. In fact, the players come with screws that secure the mechanism during shipping.
Precisely, the reason I'm suggesting this test to NTTY is to see if there's a significant difference compared to the Tascam CD200, which uses the same 5020A but in a standard chassis.

The basic CD transport mechanism is the TEAC CD-5020A, which has a long-standing track record of success in broadcast applications. By combining this rugged and highly reliable mechanism with a semi-floating mounting structure and a specially designed drive circuit ...

PD-507T | OVERVIEW | TEAC | International Website

The Reference 500 Series CD transport, based on TEAC's proprietary CD transport mechanism.

teac.jp

 

[NTTY]

Hi Roland, I'm not an Anglo-Saxon speaker, but a French speaker, so I apologize if my English is a bit poor and confusing.
The TEAC 500 series CD players (505T and 507T) actually have the 5020A mounted in a floating chassis. In fact, the players come with screws that secure the mechanism during shipping.
Precisely, the reason I'm suggesting this test to NTTY is to see if there's a significant difference compared to the Tascam CD200, which uses the same 5020A but in a standard chassis.

The basic CD transport mechanism is the TEAC CD-5020A, which has a long-standing track record of success in broadcast applications. By combining this rugged and highly reliable mechanism with a semi-floating mounting structure and a specially designed drive circuit ...

PD-507T | OVERVIEW | TEAC | International Website

The Reference 500 Series CD transport, based on TEAC's proprietary CD transport mechanism.

teac.jp

But since the TASCAM CD200 passed all my tests, I can't test anything better. Only if the TEAC 500 series would score lower, I'd see a difference. So we should expect similar best in class performances from the 505T or 507T.

 

[mustang_flht]

Thanks for your reply NTTY indeed if CD 200 passed all the tests, then we won't see any difference, unless they (505 & 507) are less good

 

[Roland68]

Hi Roland, I'm not an Anglo-Saxon speaker, but a French speaker, so I apologize if my English is a bit poor and confusing.
The TEAC 500 series CD players (505T and 507T) actually have the 5020A mounted in a floating chassis. In fact, the players come with screws that secure the mechanism during shipping.
Precisely, the reason I'm suggesting this test to NTTY is to see if there's a significant difference compared to the Tascam CD200, which uses the same 5020A but in a standard chassis.

The basic CD transport mechanism is the TEAC CD-5020A, which has a long-standing track record of success in broadcast applications. By combining this rugged and highly reliable mechanism with a semi-floating mounting structure and a specially designed drive circuit ...

PD-507T | OVERVIEW | TEAC | International Website

The Reference 500 Series CD transport, based on TEAC's proprietary CD transport mechanism.

teac.jp

Thanks for your reply NTTY indeed if CD 200 passed all the tests, then we won't see any difference, unless they (505 & 507) are less good

The Teac has an additional hard decoupling system (simple hard rubber buffers) between the plastic frame of the CD drive and the chassis (housing). This isn't intended to improve the CD reading process, but rather to protect the electronics from oscillations and vibrations, for example, caused by unbalanced CDs. This is rather counterproductive for the CD drive, as both suspensions, the drive and the drive frame, work against each other.

This also existed 25-30 years ago in various CD players, so it's been rehashed many times.

 

[User1]

The '89 Technics players (SL-P350 etc.). And the Philips CD 304 (MK2). Would be super interesting.

 

[NTTY]

The '89 Technics players (SL-P350 etc.). And the Philips CD 304 (MK2). Would be super interesting.

With the TDA1540, the Philips will have the same performances as the Marantz CD-73.
The Technics uses the BurrBrown PCM56-J DAC and Yamaha filter YM3404B and don't remember ever testing these.

I only tested the Yamaha CDX-1110 with the PCM56-K and oversampling filter YM3414, a long time ago. And after trimming the MSB, since this player allows it, I got the below:

It was a nice CD player:

 

[bramjacobse]

The CD304 Mk2 has a TDA1541 ;-)

 

[NTTY]

Oops, indeed, in which case the Revox B 126 is a goof representative of max performance.

 

[MARCD5123]

I would love to see a Denon DVD-A1XV unit tested please .

 

[Gatto]

0ppo BDP-103 Only reason is I have one, still in perfect condition .

 

[zeropoint]

A bevy of beauties: Denon DVD-A1XV, DVD-A1UD, Onkyo DV-SP1000, Pioneer BDP-LX88 or BDP-LX91.

 

[NTTY]

The big Denon have always something interesting to say. I saw one DVD-A1UD for sale a year or so ago, and told a friend to buy it. It was not on my list at the time, but now I’d like to test one indeed.
Same with the Pio LX88 after I reviewed the little brother LX58, that makes me want to test one!

 

[NTTY]

I would love to see a Denon DVD-A1XV unit tested please .

Yep with the PCM1790 or DSD1790 as I believe Denon had a specific version of this one.

I’ll review soon an SACD player with the PCM1792 and it will be interesting to compare it with my Denon DCD-SA1 and its DSD1792.

 

[Scytales]

As far as I am concerned, the PCM1792 and DSD1792 are identical chips save for a somewhat different default digital audio and control mode interface layout and the addition of what Burr Brown calls a "Noise Suppression" feature on the PCM1792 (page 23 and 24 of the relevant datasheet).

Presumably, the application guidance for one chip is optimized for priority given to conversion of PCM over DSD and vice versa for the other chip.

 

[NTTY]

Thanks for the links and insights. It will be an interesting comparison then...

 

[NTTY]

I updated the first page with the list of Players I reviewed, adding a table to help you identified what oversampling filters and DACs have been tested so far. These two make the most of a CD Player, provided the PS and analog output stage are well behaved, which is often the case, especially for higher end players. So when you're interested by a CD Player, use the table to check out if the Fitler/DAC has already been reviewed, since it's likely to be very close if not the same results.

Creating this table made me realize that the low price Yamaha CDX-393 also achieved perfection in drive tracking capabilities, and this is absolutely unique to the KSS-213C, and I guess this is a kudos to the Panasonic Servo control / error correction / interpolator!

 

[Scytales]

There is a small typo in your table : Pioneer BFP-LX58 instead of BDP-LX58.

 

[zeropoint]

Onkyo DV-SP1000

Denon DVD-A1XV

Denon DVD-A1UD

Pioneer BDP-LX88

Pioneer BDP-LX91

 

[zeropoint]

Although another long shot, I'd also be interested in the first gen Audio Analogue Paganini 192/24:

 

[NTTY]

I just published a review of the Yamaha CD-S2000 that I got lucky to find as it was not really for sale,