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What cables do you use in your systems?
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Yup. Thanks for that. However, they also have some speaker cables and fiber optical cables that are not quite as bad (only the cheapest models).Correct sentence.
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tvrgeek
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16 gauge zip cords, WBC RCA's. The USB that came with my Atom DAC. ( It has two ferrites on it) Power cords that came with my equipment.
Science.
Science.
daniboun
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read this :
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MakeMineVinyl
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I think I may have explored the outer reaches with some cable which I think cost about $20.
Seriously folks, electrical engineers figured out most of the cable thing way back at the turn of the century (the 1900 century). Please don't waste your money on snake oil and make snake oil marketeers richer than they deserve to be. If cable engineering weren't a well understood science, most everything we have now which remotely relies on electricity wouldn't be possible. Audio electrons aren't any more 'special' than the electrons which control your lawn sprinklers.
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Killingbeans
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read this :
MEASUREMENTS: Archimago's Colorful Speaker Cables, KnuKonceptz, AmazonBasics, and "freebie" speaker cable. (And changes at Audiophile Style.)
A blog for audiophiles about more objective topics. Measurements of audio gear. Reasonable, realistic, no snakeoil assessment of sound, and equipment.
The Audioholics YouTube channel also has some great videos showing how ridiculous the cable business is.
To me, if a cable *alters* sound it is a horrible thing. And when it comes to cables, there is no possible "enhancing" over a plain copper connect. Any change people hear is sound alteration - a bad thing IMO, but to each their own as they say.I think I may have explored the outer reaches with some cable which I think cost about $20.
Seriously folks, electrical engineers figured out most of the cable thing way back at the turn of the century (the 1900 century). Please don't waste your money on snake oil and make snake oil marketeers richer than they deserve to be. If cable engineering weren't a well understood science, most everything we have now which remotely relies on electricity wouldn't be possible. Audio electrons aren't any more 'special' than the electrons which control your lawn sprinklers.
The only possible enhancement is cosmetic, which is why I pick good looking -but eminently neutral- cables.
Killingbeans
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Precisely. I've said it before: Go to CERN and tell the poor scientist that they should use all of these wonderful innovations we see in audio cables if they seriously want to get good readings from the LHC. Then watch them literally rolling on the floor laughing.
I use self made copper stranded speaker cables with a decent (but not ridiculous) gauge to them, terminated in gold plated banana plugs.
For headphones I have a whole set of hart audio cables so I can easily move my headphones from single ended to balanced sources, it's much easier to disconnect their mini-xlr than the headphone cables and I'd prefer the wear to be on the mini-xlr junction rather than the port on the device or headphones.
For USB typically the cable that came with the device, though I do use a 180 degree usb c male to male adaptor to make connecting my qudelix 5k or e1da 9038s to my phone easier.
For headphones I have a whole set of hart audio cables so I can easily move my headphones from single ended to balanced sources, it's much easier to disconnect their mini-xlr than the headphone cables and I'd prefer the wear to be on the mini-xlr junction rather than the port on the device or headphones.
For USB typically the cable that came with the device, though I do use a 180 degree usb c male to male adaptor to make connecting my qudelix 5k or e1da 9038s to my phone easier.
Right on, I use neutral copper wires without silver-plating. Consumers don't gain anything from silver in audio cables. Unless the whole wiring inside the equipment is pure silver (then you might get a benefit from connecting with cables that are made of pure silver).To me, if a cable *alters* sound it is a horrible thing. And when it comes to cables, there is no possible "enhancing" over a plain copper connect. Any change people hear is sound alteration - a bad thing IMO, but to each their own as they say.
The only possible enhancement is cosmetic, which is why I pick good looking -but eminently neutral- cables.
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Killingbeans
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Nope. The resistance of the internal wiring would just go from inconsequential to pointlessly low.
All right, I have certainly never bothered to buy or listen to such equipment with wires made of pure silver...
Silver has about 6% better conductivity than copper, but oxidizes and deteriorates faster and easier. There is a reason why connectors are gold or rhodium plated - you most certainly do not want a silver connector. The inferior conductivity of gold/rhodium would invite the question as to what is more important... the cable? the shielding? the connector material?
As to the % in audible improvement between those considerations... I openly admit I'll never buy another cable, I have enough.
As to the % in audible improvement between those considerations... I openly admit I'll never buy another cable, I have enough.
Killingbeans
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Inferior volume resistivity. But it's a super thin plating, meaning that the actual resistance is nearly nonexistent.
I do look forward to a day when I'll be able to replace all the RCA cables with XLR's simply for the superior connectors but I'm not buying new amps just for that. I just bought the most expensive cable of my life, a $99 40 ft optical HDMI cable on-sale from Monoprice, cause I want to move my music server computer further away from at AV system.. All the rest were sub $50
DonR
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Luckily, silver sulphide is still fairly conductive.
Tell that to my GF. I have to shine her silver jewelry with a Dremel tool almost every week... :-D
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Don't be so cheap and buy her gold.
It is totally not by itself.
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