What budget speakers you like to see reviewed?

[thewas]

https://mainaudio.id/ - three-digit prices, multicell horns. They publish the frequency response, but in an obscene form.
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How much worse are they than OWA HR5? https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...ds/ocean-way-hr5-studio-monitor-review.13925/

I traced its above response, here it is an our typical scale:

(the region below 30 Hz is extrapolated)

 

[Soniclife]

I traced its above response, here it is an our typical scale:

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(the region below 30 Hz is extrapolated)

With no smoothing or averaging specified that I could see, so probably heavily smoothed and much worse in reality. Plus, can you imagine the horror off axis.

 

[Folktale]

Creative Pebble Plus, 2.1 system for $35. Might give Edifier a bit of competition.

surprised to not see this in the pebbles megathread. I was looking for speakers, and this thing was like on everybody's tongue, so I am really curious how it fares against big boys and among its own siblings.

 

[Folktale]

Logitech Z623, and if Pebbles v2 are already reviews, then Edifier R12u should also be in list.

 

[makruger]

Since the term "budget" means different things to different people, I would consider budget speakers to be sub $100 speakers (or $150 adjusted for post pandemic inflation). To that end I recently purchased 2 sets of 2 way Aiyima S400 desktop speakers. They have a lot of connectivity options (e.g. sub out, optical in, etc.) and even come with a remote. After listening to the first set, I decided I wanted a 2nd set for my gaming computer.

Amazon has them listed for $65 a pair and the reviews seem to be pretty positive. Paired with a cheap self powered subwoofer (e.g. RockVille Rock Shaker 6.5 with the base reflex port plugged), it makes for a really affordable near field desktop 2.1 system. I really like them....great bang for the buck. While the Edifier M60 is likely to be a more solid choice based on real test results, these baby Aiyima desktops speakers sound quite good for the money...better than I expected at least.

The question is how to they actually test out when measured with a Klippel? I'd be happy to ship out a set for testing.

Update: I just bought a set of speaker stands which raise these speakers 9 inches off the desk and allow for easy rotation for on/off axis listening.
Man these things are crazy bright when listening on axis. I had a give them a big dose of parametric EQ with Equalizer APO.
And even then I still need to rotate them off axis to tolerate them. When using EQ and rotating them off axis they sound pretty good though.

After several iterations of trying various different settings (with the help of Google Gemini), these filters now seem to work pretty well for either on axis or off axis listening. They're based off a frequency curve I found watching a Russian language YouTube review. Give them a try, they're likely a good place to start.

Filter Type Frequency (Fc) Gain Q-Factor
Filter 1 Peak (PK) 110.0 Hz -3.0 dB 1.00
Filter 2 Peak (PK) 280.0 Hz -1.5 dB 1.00
Filter 3 Peak (PK) 6,500.0 Hz -2.0 dB 2.00
Filter 4 High-Shelf (HS) 13,000.0 Hz +1.5 dB 0.50

 

[Bleib]

Edifier mr4.5

 

[coonmanx]

Are the new Cerwin Vegas considered "budget speakers"? Because I would really like to see some of them reviewed. Especially the SL series... If I didn't already have too many speakers I would be tempted to get a pair like this...

 

[coonmanx]

Or maybe this one... I do like 8" two ways...

 

[Flaesh]

new Cerwin Vegas considered "budget speakers"? Because I would really like to see some of them reviewed. Especially the SL series...

Is the CLS series

still in production? A long time ago, I read exalted praise for the CLXS series

in a local paper (yes, it was a long time ago)) magazine and arranged a demo with a dealership. I was completely disappointed by the sound and since then I don't recommend such Vegas to anyone, at least without listening to it. There are probably still quite a few of them in the US. Are they really that badly made?

 

[EJ3]

Is the CLS series
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still in production? A long time ago, I read exalted praise for the CLXS series
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in a local paper (yes, it was a long time ago)) magazine and arranged a demo with a dealership. I was completely disappointed by the sound and since then I don't recommend such Vegas to anyone, at least without listening to it. There are probably still quite a few of them in the US. Are they really that badly made?

I hope that they are not using foam again around the drivers.
I, too, would like to see some tests on these.

 

[Power Pop 23]

Is the CLS series
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still in production? A long time ago, I read exalted praise for the CLXS series
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in a local paper (yes, it was a long time ago)) magazine and arranged a demo with a dealership. I was completely disappointed by the sound and since then I don't recommend such Vegas to anyone, at least without listening to it. There are probably still quite a few of them in the US. Are they really that badly made?

Erin's Audio Corner has measured the $270/pair, Cerwin-Vega LA165 loudspeaker and does not recommend it.

Measurements for speaker Cerwin Vega LA165

www.spinorama.org

Perhaps this newer (circa 2023) 'LA165' loudspeaker is a step backwards in performance from earlier models from Cerwin-Vega.

 

[Flaesh]

Cerwin-Vega LA165

It's small and without "horns". But if one haven't budget for Tune Tot - LA165 may (well, with some EQ)) be an option !

 

[Power Pop 23]

Erin's Audio Corner specifically recommends the similarly-priced, Polk Audio Monitor XT20 over the Cerwin-Vega LA165

That is unfortunate. The enclosure of the LA165 is more appealing aesthetically than the XT20.

The shape of the LA165 reminds me of loudspeakers from Pioneer and Revel - with a quality of finish between a low-priced Pioneer and Revel.

 

[coonmanx]

OK. I posted about the SL series of Cerwin Vega speakers. To me they are the ones that would most likely be used in a home audio environment. Then someone else brought up the XLS series (not CLS) and another person brought up the LA series. Seems like we are confusing the issue here since I was specifically referring to the SL series and not the other series that they make.

Here is the website for the curious...

https://cerwinvega.com/collections/hi-fi-speakers-and-subs

 

[thewas]

Their exist some decent measurements for the CLS 215, hope the others will be measured too.

Cerwin vega

Why Doesn't anybody remember Cerwin Vega?

www.audiosciencereview.com

 

[AlexanderM]

These are Fluance powered speakers to hook up to a TV, review with measurements, they don't look too bad. Be nice if Amir could get a look at these.

Fluance Ri71 Powered Bookshelf Loudspeaker Review

We reviewed the $499/pair Fluance Ri71 powered Bluetooth bookshelf speakers—an audiophile-grade option for music lovers seeking a high-fidelity alternative to soundbars. But is there a catch?

www.audioholics.com

 

[Bleib]

Moondrop MM3a, which claims spectacular frequency response

 

[Power Pop 23]

Moondrop MM3a, which claims spectacular frequency response
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I expect Amir or Erin's Audio Corner will eventually measure a sample for comparison.


Currently $170 a pair at Amazon USA - I assume they may sell for less in other regions.

Amazon.com: Moondrop MM3A Computer Speakers 5-in-1 Multi-Function Active 3‑Inch Home Desktop Bluetooth 6.0 Audio Speakers : Electronics

Amazon.com: Moondrop MM3A Computer Speakers 5-in-1 Multi-Function Active 3‑Inch Home Desktop Bluetooth 6.0 Audio Speakers : Electronics

www.amazon.com

Is there another active desktop loudspeaker, similarly priced to the Moondrop MM3a, that claims use of a Klippel Near-Field Scanner (NFS) in its development ?

 

[Bleib]

I expect Amir or Erin's Audio Corner will eventually measure a sample for comparison.


Currently $170 a pair at Amazon USA - I assume they may sell for less in other regions.

Amazon.com: Moondrop MM3A Computer Speakers 5-in-1 Multi-Function Active 3‑Inch Home Desktop Bluetooth 6.0 Audio Speakers : Electronics

Amazon.com: Moondrop MM3A Computer Speakers 5-in-1 Multi-Function Active 3‑Inch Home Desktop Bluetooth 6.0 Audio Speakers : Electronics

www.amazon.com

Is there another active desktop loudspeaker, similarly priced to the Moondrop MM3a, that claims use of a Klippel Near-Field Scanner (NFS) in its development ?

Well, even if this one is a great one it will be SPL limited. But yes, it claims more (in the first, @ what dB-level?)

 

[Power Pop 23]

Yes, I agree the SPL will likely be limited in volume and likely limiting the applications for the Moondrop MM3a.

I am curious how much measured performance a $170 a pair of active, near-field loudspeakers can deliver when a Klippel Near Field Scanner (NFS) is used to develop them.

May the Moondrop MM3a measure well for its intended applications and sell well enough to incentivize more competitors to acquire a Klippel NFS to develop their next generation of loudspeakers.