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What are the implications of an amplifier having a ground pin?

RayDunzl

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Basic:

The third pin connects to the Neutral at the entry to the house, at the same point an Earth gound rod would be connected.

Third pin usually grounds a metal case for safety, you don't get electrocuted if the case becomes energised.

Some gear doesn't have a metal case, and may not have the third pin.

Some gear is constructed so as to meet "double insulated" criteria and may not have a third pin, even with a metal case.



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Basic:

The third pin connects to the Neutral at the entry to the house, at the same point an Earth gound rod would be connected.

Third pin usually grounds a metal case for safety, you don't get electrocuted if the case becomes energised.

Some gear doesn't have a metal case, and may not have the third pin.

Some gear is constructed so as to meet "double insulated" criteria and may not have a third pin, even with a metal case.
I thought electroshock was good for the brain, makes everything more mellower, just saying.
 
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I've seen a lot of amplifiers that don't have this and a few that do. What's the difference electrically? Also what's the implication for an end user?
The crux with unbalanced connections is that there must be at most one (and preferably exactly one) earth connection in the entire system for it to work flawlessly, avoiding the dreaded ground loops. That may be rather more easily said than done in practice. You may want to connect a PC, or something that uses an external antenna of sorts (most of which are required to be earthed for lightning protection alone), or broadband cable. So if you see an amplifier with RCA inputs and a 3-pin IEC, you may want to tread with caution.

I would assume that the larger model Rotel's transformer had rather more mains leakage capacitance than they (or regulations) were comfortable with. An outfit on the smaller side (and Rotel aren't a super large company) may have difficulty sourcing some suitable mains transformers with a shield winding. That's really the kind of effort it takes to avoid issues with unbalanced connections though. Mind you, you can "cheat" by avoiding a "hard" connection to protective earth... a few 10 nF of capacitance alone will tend to greatly reduce issues with leakage currents while still being sufficiently "open" compared to audio connection shields. So seeing a mains earth connections isn't necessarily always bad news, though it may indicate that the designer didn't really know what they were doing.

The world of balanced connections is quite different - here all the devices being earthed is actually preferred, and not at all problematic, at least if proper wiring guidelines are followed (see: pin 1 problem, AES48-2005).
 

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The connection to Planet Earth (Ground Point) has nothing to do with the Protective Earth/Safety Ground system's main tasks nor 'ground loop' problems.
 

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All to do with how the internals are designed and if providing "double isolation" to meet regulatory requirements for safety. Personally, that is how I prefer to build my own stuff. Connection to facility earth is not required for balanced lines. You will find equipment with big transformers bolted to the chassis to have earth ground plugs. You wil likely find small units, CD's DAC's etc to be 2-wire as they internally isolated the mains to the regulations. Plastic chassis being a common approach. External AC supplies another.
 
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