Wbc speaker cable from a european store or something different

[delta76]

Prices have gone up a lot in the last 3-4 years, but that is the same for everything. I got my 2x2.5mm2 and while I did not measure it, it does look very thick. No sign of rust at all which means good quality/pure copper. No sign of CCA.
I don't know where did you read the reviews, but you can't have bad quality and this number of reviews. Of course amazon reviews can be faked, but you can't hide 1 & 2 stars ones.

 

[gasolin75]

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[Mnyb]

yes if it's cca or they lie about the actual cross sections then it's junk imho or the seller and mfg are junk .

 

[DanielT]

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Damn, it's annoying to be cheated.

It's not the end of the world. It's just some cheap cables, but still. It's about the principle.

AI summary of how to check if it's OFC or CCA:

 

[delta76]

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People seem to confuse between area and diameter.
No comment about CCA but my cables are surely very high quality copper. You can cherry pick some bad reviews from any products

 

[gasolin75]

I bought qed 25xt and screwloc plugs so i spend keep the cable money

I did order some cheap banana plugs so i could try some good cable to compare but i do want ofc cable and 2x2.5mm2 or thicker

 

[Laika2]

I bought qed 25xt and screwloc plugs so i spend keep the cable money

I did order some cheap banana plugs so i could try some good cable to compare but i do want ofc cable and 2x2.5mm2 or thicker

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No cable lifters. Damn, most of the sound will sink into the shag carpet resulting in heavy vacuuming to get clarity, separation and tactile bass into the bag for future use.

 

[Panelhead]

I second the Canare Quad cables. Were very reasonable. Paid 31 cents a foot. I use three runs of 4S6. Biwire and double up for woofer and a single run to mids and tweeter’s.
Purchased an amplifier with only banana jacks a while back. First amp with bananas since a Croft in the 90’s. Ended up grabbing some Nakamichi brand banana plugs. Worked fine.
But spade lugs are just better.

 

[gasolin75]

4S6 is NOT ofc cable, that is the g cable and then we are an euro or so up in price pr meter and it's imho to thin

CANARE 4S6 STAR QUAD Speaker cable Copper 4x0.5mm² Ø6.4mm - Audiophonics

The CANARE 4S6 cable, a speaker cable perfect for a quality and low-cost bi-wiring. The latter has 4 high quality copper conductors, with a very long life.

www.audiophonics.fr

CANARE 4S6G STARD QUAD Speaker cable OFC Copper 4x0.5mm² Ø6.4mm - Audiophonics

The CANARE 4S6 cable, a speaker cable perfect for a quality and low-cost bi-wiring. The latter has 4 high quality copper conductors, with a very long life.

www.audiophonics.fr

My amp

No need to use the adapter for spades when you just can use bananaplugs with no adapters

 

[Mnyb]

People seem to confuse between area and diameter.
No comment about CCA but my cables are surely very high quality copper. You can cherry pick some bad reviews from any products

Oops I clearly underestimated people’s stupidity, there is a difference between mm and mm2

 

[Panelhead]

No need to use the adapter for spades when you just can use bananaplugs with no adapters

I purchased mine 7 - 8 years ago. I did not know they offered OFC. The quality of the copper used by Canare for at least the last 30 years is fine for me.
I prefer 5 ways and spade lugs.
Those Nakamichi bananas are collet connection. Nice attachment method. They are branded Nakamichi, doubt if same as the revered manufacturer of electronics.
Have used bare wire into 5 ways. The old “no connector is the best connector” thought. That is the hair shirt method. With three small diameter cables twisted together that is too fiddlely. Crimped on lug is more secure.
Hate to see so many products with banana only. The Brits used to say banana “sounds” the best. Considering how simple the jacks are, might agree. The plugs, no way.
Run a magnet by the cheap bananas. If they stick throw the magnet with attached bananas in trash.

 

[Bruce Morgen]

Run a magnet by the cheap bananas. If they stick throw the magnet with attached bananas in trash.

Cue Danny Richie and the notoriously "sound smearing" effect of steel binding post nuts...

 

[gasolin75]

How to know if cheap cable is OFC before buying ?

 

[Bruce Morgen]

How to know if cheap cable is OFC before buying ?

As has been pointed out repeatedly: "OFC" is a marketing term and has zero relevance to such a purchase decision, because essentially all the copper used for manufacturing electrical conductors is more than "OF" enough for any audio application. Steer clear of the copper-plated aluminum and copper-plated steel stuff and you're good -- just choose the appropriate gauge and the desired appearance/terminations!

 

[gasolin75]

SAY it in another way, how to know what isn't CCA

 

[voodooless]

SAY it in another way, how to know what isn't CCA

Aluminum isn’t copper colored. So the inside of the strands will have a different color.

 

[Chrispy]

SAY it in another way, how to know what isn't CCA

Look for phrases that relate to copper content. Weight is another indicator. If it's really cheap and it's got a vague description, move on. Not that hard to find copper cable.

 

[DanielT]

SAY it in another way, how to know what isn't CCA

Take out the lighter. You might have missed the AI screenshot I posted in #104, this one:

 

[gasolin75]

When looking online you can only know what ther write or you have to search for reviews

 

[delta76]

Buy from Amazon. If the cable information is misleading, complain to CS and get your refund.
You are making things more complicated than it should. Even with OFC cable makers are still make good money so why would they risk the long term gain by making some cheap buck