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Wave guides for tweeters useful, or a marketing ploy?

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A waveguide, often a horn-like structure, is designed to control the dispersion of sound from a tweeter, which typically handles high frequencies (2 kHz to 20 kHz). The primary purpose is to focus sound in a specific direction, reducing reflections off walls or other surfaces, which can cause interference and degrade sound quality. Waveguides also aim to match the tweeter’s dispersion pattern to that of the midrange driver, creating a more seamless transition between frequency ranges.

Human hearing is most sensitive between 2 kHz and 5 kHz, a range that includes the upper midrange and lower treble, where the ear’s sensitivity peaks. High frequencies (above 5 kHz) are indeed audible, but sensitivity decreases as frequencies approach 20 kHz, particularly with age—most adults over 30 struggle to hear above 15 kHz. Tweeters typically operate in this higher range, emitting sounds like cymbal crashes and brush strokes or harmonics that add “air” and detail to music.

Even faint high-frequency sounds are noticeable because they stand out against lower frequencies, which the ear perceives as less directional. Low frequencies (below 200 Hz) are omnidirectional and harder to localise, whilst high frequencies are more directional, making them easier to detect in a mix. This is why a tweeter’s output can seem prominent even at low volumes.

The argument that waveguides are a marketing ploy hinges on whether their benefits are necessary given the audibility of high frequencies. Proponents of waveguides argue that waveguides can reduce off-axis sound by 10-15 dB, improving clarity in reflective environments. This is could be beneficial in larger rooms or professional settings, such as recording studios, where precise sound staging is critical.

In smaller domestic environments, where listeners are often seated directly in front of the speakers, the benefits of a waveguide may be less pronounced. High frequencies are already directional, and a well-designed tweeter—such as a dome tweeter with a wide dispersion pattern—can achieve adequate coverage without a waveguide. For instance, a 1-inch dome tweeter, common in many consumer speakers, naturally disperses sound over a 60-90-degree angle at 10 kHz, sufficient for most listening scenarios. If the tweeter’s output is already audible and clear, the addition of a waveguide might offer marginal improvements at best, particularly for casual listeners who may not notice the difference.

Speaker manufacturers often tout waveguides as a premium feature to justify higher prices, using terms like “enhanced imaging” or “studio-grade precision” that appeal to audiophiles. One must also consider the potential downsides of waveguides. If poorly designed, a waveguide can introduce colouration due to reflections within the horn itself, which could dull the sound, contrary to the intended enhancement. This risk might undermine the claimed benefits, lending credence to the view that waveguides may not always deliver on their promise.

Air acts as a cohesive medium for sound waves, and high frequencies, being more directional, travel more predictably to the listener’s ear. A waveguide aims to refine this directionality, but if the air already facilitates clear transmission of tweeter frequencies, the necessity of such a device may indeed be overstated, especially in a domestic setting. Whilst waveguides for tweeters can offer tangible benefits in specific contexts—such as improved directivity and reduced room reflections—their necessity is questionable in scenarios where high frequencies are already easily audible and well-dispersed. They may be just a marketing ploy holds weight, particularly for consumer-grade speakers where the benefits may be marginal and the feature is often used to inflate perceived value. However, in professional or large-scale applications, waveguides can provide meaningful improvements, suggesting that their utility depends on the use case rather than being a universal solution.

Your thoughts, please.

(Incidentally, I can discern the cymbal crashes, brush strokes, and harmonics that contribute “air” and detail to music through my ordinary, rather dated three-way speaker, which is equipped solely with a dome tweeter.)
 
Although somewhat out of the scope from your perspectives, my experiments and implementation of wide-3D reflective dispersion of super-tweeter sound using hard-heavy random-surface crystalline-glass would be of your possible interest and reference;

- A new series of audio experiments on reflective wide-3D dispersion of super-tweeter sound using random-surface hard-heavy material:
Part-1_ Background, experimental settings, initial preliminary listening tests: #912
Part-2_ Comparison of catalogue specifications of metal horn super-tweeter (ST) FOSTEX T925A and YAMAHA Beryllium dome tweeter (TW) JA-0513; start of intensive listening sessions with wide-3D reflective dispersion of ST sound: #921
Part-3_ Listening evaluation of sound stage (sound image) using excellent-recording-quality lute duet tracks: #926
Part-3.1_ Listening evaluation of sound stage (sound image) using excellent-recording-quality jazz trio album: #927
Part-4_Provisional conclusion to use Case-2 reverse reflective dispersion setting in default daily music listening: #929

And,
- The latest system setup of my DSP-based multichannel multi-SP-driver multi-amplifier fully active audio rig, including updated startup/ignition sequences and shutdown sequences: as of June 26, 2024: #931
 
Your thoughts, please.
I think trying to boost your forum activity by pasting AI-generated texts is against the spirit of this forum.
 
In fact we have a mod direction for this.


If it's not AI generated my thought is that the opening post is rather TLDR for what it tries to discuss.
 
I think trying to boost your forum activity by pasting AI-generated texts is against the spirit of this forum.

I agree with you if this (his post #1) would be the case of your point...
AI-generated texts should be at least clearly indicated/declared as they are so.
 
I think trying to boost your forum activity by pasting AI-generated texts is against the spirit of this forum.
Who claims that this is generated by artificial intelligence? Does it appear excessively British in character? I have been contemplating this matter for some time, concerning tweeters, waveguides, and related aspects, hence my inquiries.
 
Leave the poor Brits alone. They have enough to deal with having all that rain and very little home raised beef.
 
AI vs AI ....

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Although somewhat out of the scope from your perspectives, my experiments and implementation of wide-3D reflective dispersion of super-tweeter sound using hard-heavy random-surface crystalline-glass would be of your possible interest and reference;

- A new series of audio experiments on reflective wide-3D dispersion of super-tweeter sound using random-surface hard-heavy material:
Part-1_ Background, experimental settings, initial preliminary listening tests: #912
Part-2_ Comparison of catalogue specifications of metal horn super-tweeter (ST) FOSTEX T925A and YAMAHA Beryllium dome tweeter (TW) JA-0513; start of intensive listening sessions with wide-3D reflective dispersion of ST sound: #921
Part-3_ Listening evaluation of sound stage (sound image) using excellent-recording-quality lute duet tracks: #926
Part-3.1_ Listening evaluation of sound stage (sound image) using excellent-recording-quality jazz trio album: #927
Part-4_Provisional conclusion to use Case-2 reverse reflective dispersion setting in default daily music listening: #929

And,
- The latest system setup of my DSP-based multichannel multi-SP-driver multi-amplifier fully active audio rig, including updated startup/ignition sequences and shutdown sequences: as of June 26, 2024: #931
Thank you for the references provided.
 
So, we now have an issue to address. And we shall set aside the matter of waveguides. :)
Try again later. Next time use your own words please. Using AI to create your outline and as a resource for composing your thoughts is fine of course. You can even use a few small AI Quoted text. Just be sure to indicate when you do directly quote AI.

Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.

On edit: Fixed “composting” in original to “composing” as intended. I realize that this typo was definitely changing the tone of my comment. Apologies.
 
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