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Watches! What do y'all have on your wrists?

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Don’t wear watches anymore as that might suggest a bit or nonchalant or “free” attitude. Had many nice watches in the past, some quite expensive, but this was my favourite one, and was not really that expensive at all.

But came as matt finish and I polished it by hand over many hours, and that still binds me to this watch more than others.
 

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Watches interest me. For women the watch is about gold, silver and jewels. For men it is the tidiness of the machine, and especially the well-made machine inside. The machine is the jewel. Quartz or automatic, like nowadays cars can be electric or gasoline, either can work fine. But once and a while I come across the hard cold edge of class snobbiness and wealth poisoning in an enthusiast discussion and that leaves a bad taste.

I watched a youtube video by a youtube promoter/huckster on the best watch for a person who only wants one good watch. It could just as well have been the best car, or the best cell phone. It was, surprise, about expensive watches by a few major name brands.

My response was not positive. "A dispiriting presentation that lays bare the cold hard facts of wealth. There is an entry level that is, of course, beyond by far most persons means, and that is there for that very reason. If you don't have the means stay away from those who play the wealth game because you will only get shamed. Reminds me of the car shows in Carmel, CA. This is an exposition of the pantheon of the gods. Small 'g'. Very small 'g'. I might note that for years and years audiophiles spent big amounts on high end audio equipment that in this day and age we find by scientific measurement was often middling in performance." I might add that there is a lot of wonderfulness in the Datsun B10. It was so good at its purpose. Something is missing in you if you cannot appreciate such as a Datsun B10, or a well-balanced laborer's hand tools.
 
I collect mechanical watches. I have some expensive ones, but love small boutique brands that make very different designs.

Anything with a battery doesn't on my wrist. I don't need the health functions. I know perfectly well when I sleep well, and when I don't I resent a device that mocks me. :)
 
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I like new audio but watches are vintage for me
What a nice collection, I'd take the SADA for my birthday, please!
My cheap watches aren't in the league of you's lot, so shan't mention them....
No, you should not shan't!:facepalm:
Remember, no picture means it did not happen.
60+ thread-pages here, and 'we' have' not judged collections/tastes by price, or weight. :)

ADD: I am currently wearing a $100 automatic - similar in looks to a Panerai - which I had to just look at to remember the brand (Pagani). I've had it for about four months and it needed multiple adjustments to 'dial' it in but it seems to be just ticking fine.
 
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Watches interest me. For women the watch is about gold, silver and jewels. For men it is the tidiness of the machine, and especially the well-made machine inside. The machine is the jewel. Quartz or automatic, like nowadays cars can be electric or gasoline, either can work fine. But once and a while I come across the hard cold edge of class snobbiness and wealth poisoning in an enthusiast discussion and that leaves a bad taste.

I watched a youtube video by a youtube promoter/huckster on the best watch for a person who only wants one good watch. It could just as well have been the best car, or the best cell phone. It was, surprise, about expensive watches by a few major name brands.

My response was not positive. "A dispiriting presentation that lays bare the cold hard facts of wealth. There is an entry level that is, of course, beyond by far most persons means, and that is there for that very reason. If you don't have the means stay away from those who play the wealth game because you will only get shamed. Reminds me of the car shows in Carmel, CA. This is an exposition of the pantheon of the gods. Small 'g'. Very small 'g'. I might note that for years and years audiophiles spent big amounts on high end audio equipment that in this day and age we find by scientific measurement was often middling in performance." I might add that there is a lot of wonderfulness in the Datsun B10. It was so good at its purpose. Something is missing in you if you cannot appreciate such as a Datsun B10, or a well-balanced laborer's hand tools.
The B10 became much more wonderful when given about 30% more power and 30 or so % better handling prowess by me and my laborer's (mechanic) hand tools within about 2 weeks after it rolled out of the showroom.
A very fun driving car it became (while still retaining and even exceeding by about 15% it's original fuel efficiency).
 
Interesting story... about 25 or 30 years ago, had a client who was in the jewelry business. He noted there were a wide range of high-end jewelry items for women, but very few for men -- basically watches, and perhaps gold chains for a very small segment. He came up with the idea of selling high-end pens to men. Montblanc and a few others were pretty much it at the time other than custom-made, and typically sold for only a few hundred dollars. The cheapest pen in his line started at $3,000. He used a variety of different artisans around the world, each with their own specialty, to make them. I recall his most expensive pen was getting close to $100,000. Sadly, the big market crash in 2008 took him down, though I think you can still occasionally find one of the pens on the used market. I've still got some photos in a file somewhere. Will have to see if I can find them.
 
The cheapest pen in his line started at $3,000. He used a variety of different artisans around the world, each with their own specialty, to make them. I recall his most expensive pen was getting close to $100,000.
Are you sure his name was not SilvesterStallone?
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I'd quite like to have a nice-looking watch that happens to have an HRM but does not use network or need regular recharging. I'm familiar with the pre-smart watch sports stuff from Suntoo and Garmin. And I don't need constant monitoring and logging of my heart rate, it's enough to tell me HR when I press a button. Is there anything like that on the market?
 
I say "NO, it should not be so!"
Zak's boys are where it's @, despite the lack of papaya, this weekend...
Just saw the qualifiying for the race. Looks like Norris saved by Russel crash. Did look like Verstappen & Sainz where heading both to top Norris qualifing time. It is what it is the Championship still wide open looking forward for tomorrows race. :cool:
 
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But once and a while I come across the hard cold edge of class snobbiness and wealth poisoning in an enthusiast discussion and that leaves a bad taste.
That's partly why I stopped fussing with Leica digital rangefinder cameras. The long-time fans are usually pretty mellow, but as retail prices soared, the brand started attracting some pretty brash individuals. And I had the sense that some really had been "poisoned" by stuff they could not actually afford, but which they'd do anything to possess.
 
What a nice collection, I'd take the SADA for my birthday, please!

No, you should not shan't!:facepalm:
Remember, no picture means it did not happen.
60+ thread-pages here, and 'we' have' not judged collections/tastes by price, or weight. :)

ADD: I am currently wearing a $100 automatic - similar in looks to a Panerai - which I had to just look at to remember the brand (Pagani). I've had it for about four months and it needed multiple adjustments to 'dial' it in but it seems to be just ticking fine.
I have that same Pagani (or so I think) and wore it tonight. Pretty solid watch. Without a doubt more than worth the money asked.

Extremely tasteful design. Even taking the fact that yes Pagani was clearly highly influenced by the Panerai, regardless, Pagani did enough different that I'm going to say it demonstrates there are some good designers working there.
 
That's partly why I stopped fussing with Leica digital rangefinder cameras. The long-time fans are usually pretty mellow, but as retail prices soared, the brand started attracting some pretty brash individuals. And I had the sense that some really had been "poisoned" by stuff they could not actually afford, but which they'd do anything to possess.
Yes, same with me, even though I never really fussed with Leica cameras at all because the prices were always too high. And I'm not a huge fan of rangefinders, preferring ground-glass viewing. If I was a war photographer in WWII or Korea, I'd want the quick handling of a Leica. But even by Vietnam, war photographers had switched to Nikon F's, and Leicas had lost their unique utility. For the professional work that I did in the 70's, format was king and I was much more likely to use the Mamiya C3 for which I'd paid a hundred bucks than my Canon F-1 which cost three times that. Or, I was using sheet film in a view camera.

I have purchased watches new that cost well under a hundred. The cheapest mechanical watch I bought new was a little over twice that, a Seiko Black Monster dive watch. (Actually, I paid less for a Swatch Sistem51, but not that much less.) Seiko 5's are much less than that, and are completely competent watches, but I'm a collector so my purchases go through some mental curation process and the Seiko 5 daily-wear watches didn't fill any gaps. But a person who wants a watch that doesn't have to be recharged, or stored in sunlight, or have the battery replaced every several years, can buy a Seiko 5 and get a competent, serviceable, all-metal watch for less than the cheapest Apple watch and not much more than the run-of-the-mill plastic Casio G-shock. Both of which are also competent at what they do, of course, but that fulfill a different set of requirements and impose a different set of constraints.

But snobbery can go both ways, and I see quite frequently those who out-of-hand judge owners of expensive watches as being snobbish, foolish, or both. I see that even on watch enthusiast forums, though the threshold is perhaps a bit higher (read: slightly higher than the price of the watch worn by the person making the comment). A Seiko 5 is competent but it in no way expresses the art of fine watchmaking. There is no decoration on the movement at all, and the positional accuracy is modest at best (though any minimally competent watch can be regulated to provide good-enough timing for most purposes). The dial and hands are stamped with no fine finishing, and the case shows nothing of the faceted high jewel-like polish that, say, Grand Seiko is known for.

It seems to me that those who make it an exercise in snobbery or anti-snobbery focus on the price, judged by their own (often unstated and unrealized) standards of value that others may or may not share, and that others are not morally or socially bound to share in any case.

Rick "no stranger to commentary on watches at all price levels" Denney
 
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