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Warszaw Audio Video Show 2025 - Pictures at an Exhibition
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Thanks for the pictures @olegtern 
Any speakers that you thought were really good and or interesting?
Or maybe you can say which room had good acoustics for good hifi? It seems from your pictures that there were quite different types of rooms in terms of size, shape and so on at that hifi fair.
Need, well maybe not but despite that it could be fun if you tell us a little about your impressions.
Any speakers that you thought were really good and or interesting?
Or maybe you can say which room had good acoustics for good hifi? It seems from your pictures that there were quite different types of rooms in terms of size, shape and so on at that hifi fair.
Did you like the fair?
Did you get any inspiration for future projects, speaker development? You may not want to reveal it in this thread, but I can ask about it anyway.
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For context: I am biased, I love (and listen to every day) large speakers, preferably with a compression driver and fairly large bass drivers. In other words, I love the absence of compression, low distortion, good directivity control (I prefer slightly more direct sound than reflected sound), and the absence of obvious coloration. I also prefer accurate, well-controlled bass. On the other hand, I am quite loyal to the setups at the exhibition — if something sounds good, I forgive the flaws and just have fun, as I understand how difficult it is to achieve excellent sound at an exhibition in a random room. But if any of the above “doesn't work,” I go to another room.Need, well maybe not but despite that it could be fun if you tell us a little about your impressions.
Any speakers that you thought were really good and or interesting?
With that in mind, I hardly even enter rooms with small speakers, as I don't expect to hear anything there that will please me. Even cool speakers such as D&D, Kii seven, medium-sized Genelecs (who know how to be “much bigger than their size”) don't really impress me. They're cool, but not my cup of tea. Ok, at this exhibition new D&D sounded much better than Kii seven, both had a bit too much bass (this often applies to problems that are fixed on the second or third day of the exhibition, when demonstrators adjust the setup to the room, but I heard what I heard.) But the D&D sounded more accurate and balanced, while the Kii's bass got out of control.
Let's move on to the category of large floor-standing speakers. In short. Estelon with Kondo amplification sounded the most balanced in my opinion, this is the kind of sound you would expect from high-end speakers. I liked how the B&W Nautilus sounded this time. I had heard them before in less successful installations, but here the sound was excellent. The Rockports sounded great with Electrocompanit, I almost always like Rockports. The Kharma sounded a bit harsh and not very pleasant, although I remember being impressed by how they sounded in Munich. The Magico sounded a bit sharp this time and didn't impress me much. I almost always like how Vivid Audio sounds.
There were other examples of good-sounding systems, which is generally what million-dollar systems demonstrate. To say that I fell in love with any of them — no, hardly. I'll prefer the JBL 4367 or Everest, which were not there this time
By the way, about the new high-end JBLs — sounded good, but I got the impression that they had taken a step away from 4367, difficult to describe, somewhat brighter in the middle and “rubbery” at the bottom — I wasn't too impressed.Overall, most of these systems sound great in my opinion, although I find that almost all of them lack a little “liveliness” to make me fall in love with them. (Or the rooms were too big for them in many cases, compression drivers and large woofers could do their job better in these cases)).
Speaking of rooms...
This time, there were many rooms measuring over 100 square meters at the exhibition. And this is something you won't hear at home when the speakers are working in a large room, far from the walls. Good speakers in such conditions create the effect of being at a live concert, which is difficult or impossible to achieve in a small room. And that's another reason to go to the exhibition — it's a worthwhile show, to listen to music in such conditions. At least I enjoy it.
Thank you for sharing your impressions of the fair.
In a way, I'm like you, when I'm at a hifi fair. It's the big, crazy big, preferably big ass horn speakers that I find the most fun to listen to. Not maybe because they're the best (which they can be), but that's not the point. This is mostly because I can't have speakers at home for practical reasons. So this is the only time I have the opportunity to listen to really big speakers.
For example, these big (not horns) , which also played in a really big room at a fair I went to about fifteen years ago, were the ones I liked best. A bit of a wall of sound over the whole thing. They stood out in the crowd. That was maybe what I liked plus the fact that the demonstrator put on a lot of volume with fairly dynamic classical music. The loudest volume wins, you know. Those speakers handled it well without breaking a sweat:
Pictures from the fair:
www.euphonia-audioforum.se
In a way, I'm like you, when I'm at a hifi fair. It's the big, crazy big, preferably big ass horn speakers that I find the most fun to listen to. Not maybe because they're the best (which they can be), but that's not the point. This is mostly because I can't have speakers at home for practical reasons. So this is the only time I have the opportunity to listen to really big speakers.
For example, these big (not horns) , which also played in a really big room at a fair I went to about fifteen years ago, were the ones I liked best. A bit of a wall of sound over the whole thing. They stood out in the crowd. That was maybe what I liked plus the fact that the demonstrator put on a lot of volume with fairly dynamic classical music. The loudest volume wins, you know. Those speakers handled it well without breaking a sweat:
Pictures from the fair:
Bilder från Stockholms Hifimässa 08 i Kista
Precis hemkommen från VIP-kvällen före det officiella öppnandet i Kista Science Tower och Kista Entré Följ med på en preview mässan
www.euphonia-audioforum.se
Cool with such large listening rooms or listening halls.
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Thanks very much for the report and the pictures!!
I’m really curious about your thought thoughts on these speakers:
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It's difficult to write something poetic. I just listened to a couple of tracks on this system (I didn't have much time and in most rooms I only had time to go in and out, but I stayed here a while longer), and I had no complaints. Everything sounded right and just the way I like it. As I mentioned earlier, I love large speakers with horn drivers in the upper range, especially in such huge rooms (there was a carpet the size of a typical European apartment. lol)), where they give the impression of no limits (something that many other "million-dollar" audio jewelry setups at the exhibition lacked).
I didn't hear any artifacts (from bass reflex, any shrillness from the drivers, although judging by the shape of the horn, this shouldn't have happened; any significant change in the sound of high frequencies when moving around the room, which can happen when using a super tweeter, which often does more harm than good, but everything seemed to be okay here). The overall tonality was well balanced with sufficient, but not excessive, “meat on the bones” in the lower midrange (which was lacking, for example, in the JBL Macalu what I didn't expect from JBLs)). The size of the voices and instruments was large-scale, but not exaggerated.
The tracks that were played weren't too intense or complex, which may have prevented any flaws from being revealed, but I don't think anything really bad could have happened there.
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My first time in Warsaw. Very positive surprise. I like the old fashioned many small hotel rooms style. Very democratic- same conditions for all. Not room for the most crazy bling bling and rooms treatment unlike the Munich show.Did you like the fair?
Did you get any inspiration for future projects, speaker development? You may not want to reveal it in this thread, but I can ask about it anyway.
It was just too crowded Saturday. The stadium was huge and hard to navigate. I get inspiration, walked around with a good colleague and bounced ideas. Met friends in the industry. Unbelievable how many opinions on what good sounds is there seem to be around all these rooms. Seeing / hearing so many rooms reveals some patterns.
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Thanks for the description!
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