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Gitfiddle said:
It makes me wonder what will happen to Klipsch in particular. They got bought out by gentex and it seems like they already had some deals to use their speakers in foreign cars.
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Yep. Kef also (GP Acoustics International Ltd) . Others too, ownership of companies are complex these days.
 
Petrushka said:
Does anyone really believe these are not just the opening gambits for negotiations?
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I don't know, ask the mistaken for gang member soccer player in El Salvador. One can never tell that's a big problem for investors. People are panic buying planned purchases so I think its a real belief.
 
Gitfiddle said:
Even if all of this is reversed tomorrow, the reputational loss will be permanent and staggering. I would hate to sit on the internal meetings of these companies right now.
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By today's news Blade 1 will climb to $70k for example.
That's 8381A territory, it's crazy!

The thought is, does it matter that (the specific one) is made in UK or does it matter that it's owned by a Chinese company?
Crazy stuff.
 
It was nice while it lasted.
Others will take up the slack, I can wait it out.

Sooner or later monopolies raise the prices, until of course, competition is restored.

- Rich
 
Sokel said:
By today's news Blade 1 will climb to $70k for example.
That's 8381A territory, it's crazy!
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Any reason to think Genelec won't be affected?
 
Gitfiddle said:
Even if all of this is reversed tomorrow, the reputational loss will be permanent and staggering. I would hate to sit on the internal meetings of these companies right now.
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Perhaps, placing relying on Chinese imports will be considered risky.
It always was, but executives take the profits and leave this problem for the next guy, after cashing out that is.

- Rich
 
Sokel said:
By 104% tariff? By today's news, no.
Maybe a 20% been a EU product.
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Yeah but they don't source any of their components from China or another heavily impacted country?
 
kyuu said:
Yeah but they don't source any of their components from China or another heavily impacted country?
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None that I know off.
Their amps maybe? But even if they did importing them to EU does not hit them with the US tariffs.
In fact the climate here in EU seems to be in favor of better deals with China as it will be a relief for both.
 
Dynaudio too. Parent company is NOT in Denmark. All gamesmanship & nothing to see here. Good entertainment I suppose My own county puts it to me much harder then any of this other...I'm rural, rural & when the city showed up life got hard.... :oops:
Check that....I WAS rural rural once upon a time. The farms are houses & the houses are expensive hence monstrous tax increases ever single freakin year. Cali is looking good now.Fu.. it.. Maybe the Philippines for matter :cool:
 
RichB said:
Perhaps, placing relying on Chinese imports will be considered risky.
It always was, but executives take the profits and leave this problem for the next guy, after cashing out that is.

- Rich
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Even relying on home engineered products has some risk. The Ford Pinto comes to mind. (I am, absolutely, still a Ford enjoyer though.) :D

Sokel said:
By today's news Blade 1 will climb to $70k for example.
That's 8381A territory, it's crazy!

The thought is, does it matter that (the specific one) is made in UK or does it matter that it's owned by a Chinese company?
Crazy stuff.
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Everything will be effected by the tariffs. Every trade deal that breaks down internationally from the tariffs will need to be offset. Even if no components are made in the united states for one product wont mean that corporations wont offset costs of failed deals by raising prices. That is the main kicker. Don't expect anyone to loose expected profits.

edit: this was more to your second point.
 
DVDdoug said:
Most of my expenses are rent, insurance, utilities, and food.
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Your landlord's costs are going up so will your rent. Utilities' expenses go up due to parts they import to run their facilities. And increase in their labor costs as they compensate their workers for inflation. Food is heavily imported lest you think berries grow in the north in dead of winter. With complete coverage of tariffs across the globe, everything is going to be impacted. And once prices are increased, they tend to not come back down even if trade barriers are removed.
 
RichB said:
until of course, competition is restored.ate
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And exactly how does that happen the tariffs are are way to compete with democratic nations that use tax payer money for healthcare, education, environment, public transportation, energy distribution and still provide goods services at fair price. Now China is a different story as there is no free market. This is a scheme to keep the US in a gulag of many inferior goods at high prices with little completion and a lot consolidation buy large corporations and wealthy investors.
 
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The service on the US debt is approaching 20% and that is the problem we should be tackling not the size of government. The efficiency and outcomes of government spending remains a problem also. We have embraced the free market for the last 50 years.
 
David Gordon (Audio Research) has posted this on FB:

China is our largest distributor whose business cannot be replaced. And, as much as we would like to use all American-made parts, we both know that is impossible because many are simply not manufactured in the US.

This tariff war will put many US companies at risk of going out of business.
 
amirm said:
Your landlord's costs are going up so will your rent. Utilities' expenses go up due to parts they import to run their facilities. And increase in their labor costs as they compensate their workers for inflation. Food is heavily imported lest you think berries grow in the north in dead of winter. With complete coverage of tariffs across the globe, everything is going to be impacted. And once prices are increased, they tend to not come back down even if trade barriers are removed.
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"think global, not local"

renting is a personal choice

the place I'm in now cost about a much as nice Cadillac 25yrs ago... now its a couple of million... all the while stuff like strata or equivalent compulsory HOA fees go up... this house is in a part of the city that has no flooding or fire risk and yet insurances gone up because we share the risk with people who do... and so have building costs... and hence rent

A house like this is a $500,000 build propostion and predictably a lot of components like glass arent even made in this country.... when I was in the construction business the 'reading material' was Globalsources.

about food.... fertilisers and the raw ingredents come from overseas especially canada

i remember our warehouses were full of bags drums of ingredients from china india even ukraine and other east europe and ex russian satellite states i cant pronouce

as much as people say buy l;ocal. buy with an eye for repaiability... this is dead... this wasnt a thing pre 9/11 unless you are talking abouit luxury goods and that stuff doesnt impact your day to day

and yes., nice to wake up to 104% - let us see how the market reacts!
 
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