Verum Audio Verum 2 Headphone Review

[cmabooty]

I love my Verum 1. Despite their size and weight, they’re the most comfortable headphones I own by a lot. Other headphones for reference - sennheiser amperior, grado sr60i, audiotechnica ath-m50, hifiman he4xx. The headband just distributes weight perfectly - I think it’s the pivot point in the band, but if I didn’t know what they weighed I’d guess they were half that.

Can’t wait to check these out. These look much better on the head due to the reduction in thickness.

 

[torgeirs]

Corrosion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Eat a egg with a silver spoon and it gets corroded.
black silver sulfide
Ag2S
But you cover it with a non corrosive material as i understand it

 

[torgeirs]

So keep it away from sulphur

 

[rsqt]

$400 more than a 7Hz Zero:2 which is better by measuring.

 

[Chagall]

$400 more than a 7Hz Zero:2 which is better by measuring.

And $4500 less than Yamaha YH-5000SE that measures worse... point being?

 

[Igor_S]

Corrosion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Eat a egg with a silver spoon and it gets corroded.
black silver sulfide
Ag2S
But you cover it with a non corrosive material as i understand it

Again. Silver doesn't corrode. Silver tarnished (this layer called Patina and doesn't rust. Thin black dark sulfide layer doesn't damage silver. And that's the definition of corrosion.
Silver is one of so called "Noble Metals" and by definition of noble metals they're resistant to corrosion.

 

[ZolaIII]

Again. Silver doesn't corrode. Silver tarnished (this layer called Patina and doesn't rust. Thin black dark sulfide layer doesn't damage silver. And that's the definition of corrosion.
Silver is one of so called "Noble Metals" and by definition of noble metals they're resistant to corrosion.

We have a bit of hate toward silver, some objective from wear wolfs, but mostly not towards conductivity fairytales. Silver does exhibit oxidation, it's not deep root and easy enough to clean and maintain. Hopefully we won't went to metalurgy right now. If you can remove oxygen less "noble" one's get better like copper and fine regarding conductivity still for far less noble amount of money. That's regarding cables of course. I don't dislike silver but don't find it neither noble or in any way having any property to make it such. I like, hard to make simple legures when they cary some incredible properties with it, like NiTi, still Nicle is not for direct skin exposure and don't mind paying for it. Of course that's just me.

 

[Igor_S]

@ZolaIII I've chosen silver for: mechanical properties, corrosive resistance and conductivity.
With aluminum I wouldn't achieve such results.

Next time it will be gold

 

[Sebby]

@ZolaIII I've chosen silver for: mechanical properties, corrosive resistance and conductivity.
With aluminum I wouldn't achieve such results.

Next time it will be gold

On the website I see that the black and red versions come with the case. But is it also included with the Pearl version?
Is the listed price excluding VAT? I want to understand how much it might cost me if I buy it from Italy...

 

[Igor_S]

@Sebby all versions include case, 2 cables and 2 pads.
Please contact me via website and I'll answer all your questions, I'm sure this topic should be more technical.

 

[LuckyNat]

I don't dislike silver but don't find it neither noble or in any way having any property to make it such.

It's a scientific term denoting low chemical reactivity.

Quite literally by definition, the properties silver has .. makes it noble.

Red denotes "sometimes noble" (the group copper is in), yellow denotes "usually" (silver), green denotes "always" . Blue denotes "can be in specific instances" .

 

[LuckyNat]

@LuckyNat to follow up infra sound corrections from ISO 389-7 in ISO 226 2023 even regarding headphones but more to subwoofer's and to expected in room response speakers not Harman headphone which by the way is simple shaving filter adjusted to mid 70 SPL mimic of it to (small group) controled average. Regarding language maieutics. ISO 226 2023 is still a goal regarding headphone implementation and you won't get there regarding sub's alone. Not that it does matter all that much anyway when we can't even push a loudness normalisation (EBU R128) implementation which would solve input level.

That is to do with the playback device or source.

I still don't see how that relates to the capability of the transducer and "fake" bass you said planars create..

Oh well, not to worry!

 

[LuckyNat]

Looks good though it is a bit messy in the highs.
Still i cannot decide on ordering, because there were pretty shady things around the guy who makes this, so who knows what happens if you need support or having warranty problems.

Its often the companies who are faceless and hard to contact that have the customer service issues. Unusual for it to be the companies who actively engage with customers on forums like this .

 

[Jeromeof]

By the way, I have an earlier version the closed caps and I have some measurements of those. If @Igor_S is ok I can share them here ( as I measured the difference with and without the closed caps privately ). While the FR is not great with the closed caps, and overall they make the headphone quite heavy, I thought the mechanism ( magnetic attachments) was fantastic and especially for those who want to experiment with different dampening materials on the inside of the caps, as it takes a couple of seconds to swap. That is my intention over the next few weeks to try and understand the differences different materials and placement can make with the frequency response.

 

[ZolaIII]

@LuckyNat EBU R128 to the source (so that SPL is the same) but you have to have the source to add metadata. ISO 226 to how we hear psy at given SPL. ISO 226 2023 to any speaker, headphones that can not follow it.
Infra sound is fake in many ways. We perceive it as a tail as its progressively late to our hearing that's the reason for increase in amplitude to make up for delay but there is no analog transciver (driver) yet in the existence that can follow it. It's not present in the wiled to a point best predators like cats don't hear under 40 Hz and don't bother with it. They do when they feel it trough pows as seismic activity which it really is. Without it (pressure) it's totally fake and synthetic and no amount of THD+N helps there.
If we can't regulate to have equal matched input SPL for all content including video which can vary up to 12 dB (twice as loud psy) of course ELC won't work. Difference is do to DR difference in mix and deliberate to push the levels up (loudness wars) or very broad made for big theatres TXH cinema up to 24 dB DR. EBU R128 all do primary designed as broadcasting standard should have bean saving grace with correction range of 23 LUFS (dB) ±1 dB margin of error. Instead we get adaptation of loudness wars from teach companies which they try to justify by different things that are not valid. Like that they provide just music content which dosent need more than 17 LUFS as DR won't exide it and how it's a burden for analog devices (amplifiers), troth is you can easy get back output dB SPL by adding it in FP domain digital (that's what huge SINAD there is for). In short that would be it.
I don't fency silver and not interested in reasons why it's declared as it is. If it's something useful like retaining exact first casted shape under pressure and trough time and obuse I want it for the parts that would suffer the most like head band. For the property it's called memory metal and all do NiTi is as simple legure as it gets it's hard to combine as it needs a very high temperature to cast.

 

[Sir Sanders Zingmore]

If @Igor_S is ok I can share them here ( as I measured the difference with and without the closed caps privately )

Why do you need permission to post measurements that you took?

 

[Jeromeof]

Why do you need permission to post measurements that you took?

Because I got a prereleased model of the caps which may not representative of the final version and I don’t want to misrepresent what the final version might sound like

 

[Igor_S]

@Jeromeof After your measurements and private discussions I've changed damping in comparison with test version and the result is significantly different.
Thanks again for your help.

 

[low_art]

This is not surprising. Planar magnetic or electrostatic headphones exhibit lower distortion, but dynamic headphones offer superior longevity. The reason planar or electrostatic models haven't gained popularity in the mainstream monitoring market is their fragility and inherent sensitivity to humidity. Without meticulous care, they are prone to natural deterioration and cannot match the environmental tolerance of dynamic headphones.

This might be true if electrostatics are subjected to environmental extremes over an extended period. I've owned five pairs of Stax (I still own four) the newest of which is the 404 LE made in 2009, the oldest of which is from the mid-70s. (Edit: My oldest pair are the SR-Lambda NB, made in 1979) All of them are still perfectly functional except for the pair I dropped on the floor. They are fragile, but in a typical indoor living space they don't seem unusually vulnerable to the "environment".

 

[amirm]

I've owned five pairs of Stax (I still own four) the newest of which is the 404 LE made in 2009, the oldest of which is from the mid-70s. All of them are still perfectly functional except for the pair I dropped on the floor.

Same here. I have a number of Stax purchased 30 years ago and other than pads coming unglued, they continue to work as they did originally.