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The design of the Vera Audio P150/600 RS is complete. The price is 29 600 NOK exclusive tax and shipping. Due to the corona situation and a delay with chassises, it will be a while before we have a decent number in quantity. We only have a few for sales at the moment and that's the reason it hasn't been announced yet. But I thought I would share some details for those who have an interest.

In 4 Ohm it delivers 1kW with amazingly low 0.0006% THD+N. This is bridged, but it says a lot about the performance. The "notches" you see in the graph below comes from our measuring equipment switching measuring area and isn't able to keep up with such low numbers. The actual distortion around 50-500W is even lower. Probably down towards 0.00025%.
P150_600_RS_bridged.png


In stereo mode it gives out 290W in 4 Ohm with the same low distortion:
P150_600_RS_stereo.png


The linearity is also in it's own class. +/- 0.025dB from 20Hz to 20kHz. -3dB at 60kHz.
P150_600_linearity.png


The noise as low as 17uV (A-weigthing):
P150_600_RS_Noise.png


CMRR.
This is something we have spent a lot of resources on. Briefly said, CMRR is the the amplifiers ability to supress noise that comes from the outside through cables. Everything over 100dB is considered expectionally good.
P150_600_RS_CMMRpng.png


Here's the measurement of the gain adjustments. This is also something we have spent a lot of time on to get accurate.
You can see that the maximum deviation is 0.01dB

P150_600_RS_Gain control.png


The chassis of the amplifier is cut out from a whole block of aluminium and there are no visible screws or seams. It's of very high quality and part of the reason our amplifier cost what it does besides extremely accurate gain adjustments, bridging option, etc.

Some more info from our enigneer Armand:

* We use a huge power supply of 3kW. This has plenty more capacity and runs cooler at heavy loads. It will also result in much lower distortion at low frequencies (at high loads)
* Our amplifier is (as far as we know) the only Purifi model that has bridging capability. A lot of testing has been done and special considerations are in place to make this work as it should. Looking at the measurements of 1kW with 0,0006% distortion proves this is flawless.
* We deliver real measurements of the whole amplifier from input to output measured with a R&S Audio analyzer. https://www.rohde-schwarz.com/my/product/upv-productstartpage_63493-7558.html. The noise, THD+N and power delivery presented by others on specification sheets are in several cases only copied from the Purifi 1ET400A datasheet and do not tell the whole story. Internal layout, audio buffer, power supply, cooling capacity all play a role into the final result.
* We use a microcontroller that constantly monitors the 1ET400A modules. Temperatures, voltages, overcurrent, clipping, error modes, etc. The RGB LED on the front will warn the user if the amplifier operates outside safe limits. Clipping is warned with RED/GREEN blinks depending on Left/Right channel. Sustained overcurrent will shut down the amplifier in order to avoid damage to speakers and warn the user with steady RED light. A yellow light will warn the user that the temperature is reaching a level that is not healthy.
* We have a Auto OFF function. 3 hours without signal on the inputs will initiate a shutdown of the amplifier to conserve power and longevity of the product . (This function can be disabled by the user if not wanted)
* There is a trigger input. (This automatically overrides the Auto OFF function)
* All small signal levels are contained inside a well shielded small compartment in the back, ensuring low noise and excellent RF protection. The RF protection is done directly at the back of the fully shielded Neutrik XLR inputs. The XLR inputs are directly connected to the chassis to ensure short signal patc to ground.
* Remote sensing of the amplifier feedback loop at the speaker terminals using a four wire system ensures the lowest possible output impedance and distortion at the terminals.

Here is a picture of the internal layout. Note that this is seen from the bottom with the bottom lid off.
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Congrats.
These are the features I have been expecting from other manufactures.

I believe there will be a lot of interest in this. Maybe worth to start a new thread when you are ready.

Could you explain how you managed go bridge the Purifi modules, as it was not recommended by Purifi?
 

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Congrats.
These are the features I have been expecting from other manufactures.

I believe there will be a lot of interest in this. Maybe worth to start a new thread when you are ready.

Could you explain how you managed go bridge the Purifi modules, as it was not recommended by Purifi?
Thank you. We can start a new thread with the official release. Should have a webstore with ordering online also ready by then.

Armand, our engineer, wrote the following earlier about bridging:
The circuit in our Vera P150/600 is made so that it does in fact "sense the voltage differential that exists between the (now unused) OUT- terminals of the two 1ET400A Designs". That is why we can offer the bridging capability. We have of course tested this configuration and also demonstrated the performance as shown in post #32.

We'll see if more detailed information regarding this can be shared or not.
 

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@Bjorn could you please post more pictures from the Vera Audio P150/600 RS chassis (front, side, back)? Thanks!
 

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@Bjorn could you please post more pictures from the Vera Audio P150/600 RS chassis (front, side, back)? Thanks!
We're waiting for new cabinets from a new manufacturer. That means we will also wait for the new chassis before we take professional pictures. Besides, the text on the front will be different than the few models we have now and perhaps going from laser engraving to silk printing will make a slight difference as well.

That being said, you can see some pictures of the present cabinet below. The text in the front of this cabinet is bigger compared to final version.

P150_600 RS_front (Medium).jpgP150_600 RS_rear (Medium).jpgP150_600 RS_side (Medium).jpgP150_600 RS_side2 (Medium).jpg
 

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Some more information on the website now and with prelimanary datasheet that can be downloaded.
https://www.vera-audio.com/product.php?product_id=2

A unit will be shipped to ASR for a review/measurements as soon as we get the new cabinets. We should also have a webstore with online ordering ready by that time.
 

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Aweslme, looking forward to see how it measures!
Will u send a P400/1000 as well?

Looking away from the number of channels, how does you Purifi Eigentakt amplifier stack up against the Lyngdorf mxa-8400?
 

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Aweslme, looking forward to see how it measures!
Will u send a P400/1000 as well?

Looking away from the number of channels, how does you Purifi Eigentakt amplifier stack up against the Lyngdorf mxa-8400?
Take note that there are already measurements of both amplifiers presented in our prelimanary datasheets on our website. However, ASR has more accurate measuring gear than us and it's good to have measurements conducted by someone who's not affiliated with us. I see no reason why not sending a P400/1000 for a review at some time as well.

We can't comment on other amplifiers or how they compare to ours.
 

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I read on the Vera website. Can some one technically explain this feature for me. "0.004% precision resistor which helps to provide a CMRR (common mode rejection ratio) of at least 94dB at 1kHz"

Is this in the Vera op amp /buffer board or an upgrade in the Purifi amp or?
 
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In cases where noise is present on the balanced cable, a high CMRR number rejects more of that noise and prevents it from entering the signal sent to the amplifier modules.
Achieving a high CMRR is all about the buffer. On the Vera amplifiers we have developed a buffer with a consistent very high CMRR of at least 94dB on both channels. This is measured at 1kHz with 10 Ohm difference on the source impedance.

The original Purifi buffer is only specified to better than 60dB and measured by Amir here:
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...ifi-1et400a-amplifier.7984/page-8#post-195147
 

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In cases where noise is present on the balanced cable, a high CMRR number rejects more of that noise and prevents it from entering the signal sent to the amplifier modules.
Achieving a high CMRR is all about the buffer. On the Vera amplifiers we have developed a buffer with a consistent very high CMRR of at least 94dB on both channels. This is measured at 1kHz with 10 Ohm difference on the source impedance.

The original Purifi buffer is only specified to better than 60dB and measured by Amir here:
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...ifi-1et400a-amplifier.7984/page-8#post-195147
Great info. Sorry about one more question. The measurement you refer to as the original Purifi buffer. Is that the measurement on the buffer of the Purifi input board? If one connect directly to the Purifi module bypassing the buffer board as the Audiophonics amp what will then the CMRR be?

https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/blog...-bypass-on-purifi-amplifier-module-ampli.html
 

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Hard to say without measurements
 

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Some more information on the website now and with prelimanary datasheet that can be downloaded.
https://www.vera-audio.com/product.php?product_id=2

A unit will be shipped to ASR for a review/measurements as soon as we get the new cabinets. We should also have a webstore with online ordering ready by that time.

Hello, will these amps be configured and offered to the US market? I am interested in the reference amp. Currently looking at the NAD offering but like your design much better.

Thank you
 

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Hello, will these amps be configured and offered to the US market? I am interested in the reference amp. Currently looking at the NAD offering but like your design much better.

Thank you
Yes. Just need a different connection to work with 110V. Will normally take us a day extra.

There's a review of the P150/600 RS with a comparison to NAD C298 (which also uses Purifi modules) in a Norwegian magazine FIY. Review starts on page 55 and the comparison to NAD C298 starts on page 58. You would need to copy and paste the text and let i.e. google translate for you.
It can be opened in the link below and then downloaded as PDF file. It's the top one to the left:
https://www.stereopluss.no/magasiner.365378.no.html
The writer of the review ended up buying two P150/600 RS by the way.

Take note that the NAD C298 does not offer more output power which the magazine writes. It only seems that way because we rate the wattage with lower distortion and more conservatively compared to NAD.
Best is to look at graphs which show THD+N distortion vs power with different loads.

Stereo:
THD+N 1KHz_stereo P150.png



Bridged:
THD+N 1KHz bridge overview.png
 

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Yes. Just need a different connection to work with 110V. Will normally take us a day extra.

There's a review of the P150/600 RS with a comparison to NAD C298 (which also uses Purifi modules) in a Norwegian magazine FIY. Review starts on page 55 and the comparison to NAD C298 starts on page 58. You would need to copy and paste the text and let i.e. google translate for you.
It can be opened in the link below and then downloaded as PDF file. It's the top one to the left:
https://www.stereopluss.no/magasiner.365378.no.html
The writer of the review ended up buying two P150/600 RS by the way.

Take note that the NAD C298 does not offer more output power which the magazine writes. It only seems that way because we rate the wattage with lower distortion and more conservatively compared to NAD.
Best is to look at graphs which show THD+N distortion vs power with different loads.

Stereo:
View attachment 109155


Bridged:
View attachment 109156
This a excellent measurements but there is more to amplifier behavior than driving 1kHz signals into resistive loads.

- Rich
 

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This a excellent measurements but there is more to amplifier behavior than driving 1kHz signals into resistive loads.

- Rich
You can check the Purifi 1ET400A IMD at 18+19 kHz too, artifacts are below -120dB even in high power. In fact, less than the Benchmark AHB2.
And if you prefer speaker simulated loads, its very low output impedance makes this a non issue as well.
 

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