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Uptone EtherREGEN

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Yet another unmeasured piece from Uptone on a "problem" that I'm pretty sure doesn't even exist. Oh and if one uses a wireless mesh network, how does this even make any difference if we speculate that it does work? Now you have wireless involved. Come on people. It gets more and more crazy as each year passes by. From promises of of objective data by them when they have time and yet that totally gets overlooked and they time to build a pick and place machine along with new products always prevails. It's total insanity and gullible audiophiles can't wait to buy this stuff. Go figure.

https://uptoneaudio.com/products/EtherREGEN
 

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Yet another unmeasured piece from Uptone on a "problem" that I'm pretty sure doesn't even exist. Oh and if one uses a wireless mesh network, how does this even make any difference if we speculate that it does work? Now you have wireless involved. Come on people. It gets more and more crazy as each year passes by. From promises of of objective data by them when they have time and yet that totally gets overlooked and they time to build a pick and place machine along with new products always prevails. It's total insanity and gullible audiophiles can't wait to buy this stuff. Go figure.

https://uptoneaudio.com/products/EtherREGEN
But, but.... it’s a got a moat!
 

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I spoke to the folks at Uptone Audio some six months ago about a power supply, and the conversation turned to this REGEN product, soon to be introduced. The suggestion was that this would be “just what I needed”. I honestly didn’t understand why it would be a better choice than a linear power supply at the time. But now I really do need an Ethernet switch and I am wondering why I shouldn’t be interested in a product like this from Uptown Audio. Or the AQVOX switch recently reviewed by Hans Beekhausen. Seriously, is there a reason to spend some real dollars on a switch? And if so, are there some good switches out there?

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Oh and if one uses a wireless mesh network, how does this even make any difference if we speculate that it does work? Now you have wireless involved. Come on people.

https://uptoneaudio.com/products/EtherREGEN
Funny though Jason, I see in your signature that you have two EMO Systems LAN isolators (total retail almost $400; actual parts cost less than $40). What are those passive devices doing for you?
Our product uses active differential isolators and 10GHz-capable ultra low jitter differential flip-flops. Our cost for just the parts on the board (not counting the cost of the bare 6-layer PCB with micro-vias or the cost to assemble) is more than $200.
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Given that any benefit this product may impart to bits happens upstream of this processing chain:
Ethernet card-->OS kernel-->audio application-->DAC driver-->DAC-->acoustic transducer

What influence do you claim to impart to the generated sound waves?
 

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I spoke to the folks at Uptone Audio some six months ago about a power supply, and the conversation turned to this REGEN product, soon to be introduced. The suggestion was that this would be “just what I needed”. I honestly didn’t understand why it would be a better choice than a linear power supply at the time. But now I really do need an Ethernet switch and I am wondering why I shouldn’t be interested in a product like this from Uptown Audio. Or the AQVOX switch recently reviewed by Hans Beekhausen. Seriously, is there a reason to spend some real dollars on a switch? And if so, are there some good switches out there?
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There's not going to be any difference between this and standard switch. I use TP-Link and Dell switches. I have more expensive managed switches because I like to play with things like link aggregation (combining more than one cable to increase throughput and redundancy). But this doesn't make them any better at transmitting audio data (but it will tell me if I have a faulty cable).
 

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Funny though Jason, I see in your signature that you have two EMO Systems LAN isolators (total retail almost $400; actual parts cost less than $40). What are those passive devices doing for you?
Our product uses active differential isolators and 10GHz-capable ultra low jitter differential flip-flops. Our cost for just the parts on the board (not counting the cost of the bare 6-layer PCB with micro-vias or the cost to assemble) is more than $200.
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Holy there's a lot of stuff crammed in that tiny thing, I hope there's no extra noise adding one of these in the 'chain'...
Have you measured the noise using your product, by chance ?
 

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Funny though Jason, I see in your signature that you have two EMO Systems LAN isolators (total retail almost $400; actual parts cost less than $40). What are those passive devices doing for you?
Our product uses active differential isolators and 10GHz-capable ultra low jitter differential flip-flops. Our cost for just the parts on the board (not counting the cost of the bare 6-layer PCB with micro-vias or the cost to assemble) is more than $200.
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Will you send one to Amir to test?
 

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Funny though Jason, I see in your signature that you have two EMO Systems LAN isolators (total retail almost $400; actual parts cost less than $40). What are those passive devices doing for you?
Our product uses active differential isolators and 10GHz-capable ultra low jitter differential flip-flops. Our cost for just the parts on the board (not counting the cost of the bare 6-layer PCB with micro-vias or the cost to assemble) is more than $200.
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As someone who made my living in product development in the computer networking field for 30 + years I find this stuff bordering on the offensive.
 

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Funny though Jason, I see in your signature that you have two EMO Systems LAN isolators (total retail almost $400; actual parts cost less than $40). What are those passive devices doing for you? ....
Using a compliant medical grade isolator between his internal network and the rest of the world doesn't sound like a bad idea.
 

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I had a couple of this specific bridges for my quarter mile fiber optic link and one of them just died after just two years. So don't go this route regardless of what you think it does for audio.
Did you replace them with another brand? I have two 20m runs of Cat5E between my house and data centre (AKA 'the garage') and was considering replacing them with fibre.
 

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Did you replace them with another brand? I have two 20m runs of Cat5E between my house and data centre (AKA 'the garage') and was considering replacing them with fibre.
I have but don't have enough mileage to know if they will last: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00008NV11/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Sadly they have less diagnostic LEDs than the TP Link one. That one gives you independent LEDs for the TX and Optical side which was very useful.
 
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