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UpTone Audio EtherREGEN Switch Review
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I can't do any sweeps since this is a networked device and my analyzer can't control it. I can run the 32 tone test though. Will do after dinner.
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Previous owner had used it for a while so I am assuming it is burned in.You need to let it burn-in for 300 hours. Apparently then it'll start to really bloom
Killingbeans
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The CE certification is administered by the manufacturer. There is no third party involved. Its validity is only checked if there's probable cause. Basically a useless certification. Or so I've been told...
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There you go right there. You haven't let it burn in properly. Is the firmware updatable on this and did you burn that in? Hopefully it doesn't burn out before it burns in.
There was already some update that John S came out with. it sounded better but he has no idea why. I do. Cuz he has no clue on what just happened based on measurements! Oh wait. It doesn't do anything as shown above.
https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/57809-etherregen-all-posts-about-firmware-moved-here/
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Need some opinions here. Which of these logos are most fitting for a reviewed product like this. I'd lean toward both.
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While most have enjoyed the new firmware or reported not noticing much difference, a very few of the many people who applied the update have expressed that they do not enjoy the EtherREGEN quite as much with the new firmware. However, they are relying exclusively on their last memory of the SQ before applying the update (which for most people required a break of about 20~30 minutes), as they are not able to reload the original code. Aural memory in this realm is a very tricky thing, and while I am by no means a dogmatic blind-A/B/X proponent, I have for decades collaborated on design decisions using sighted A/B/A/B/A testing.
I would venture a guess that he is not saying this when users report that the switch improves audio quality. If a user says "using this expensive switch added lots of bass and soul to my music", that assessment is based on aural memory. It must therefore be just as questionable as the claim that updating the firmware reduced the audio quality. He has just invalidated his only results-based argument for his product, quod erat demonstrandum.
Lets split the difference between blind ABX and sighted ABABAB, and just do some blind ABABABAB. Ask what people like better, with no opportunity for aural memory to get in the way.
Whelp, be sad b/c I don't doubt that they are.
Unfortunately, I think they are. The hilarious part is all the comments pitying the ASR unbelievers by those who bought into the fairytale and are hearing amazing improvements. "Lack of intellectual curiosity" according to @Superdad is dominating ASR
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Oh, it is a hard requirement covered under 47 U.S. Code § 302a. Devices which interfere with radio reception
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/302a
Devices covered are anything that has radiations above 9 kHz: https://transition.fcc.gov/bureaus/oet/info/documents/bulletins/oet62/oet62rev.pdf
You can get fined thousands of dollars per device. I have never worked for a company that dared to ship products without FCC/CE certification.
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Well, if you put the converter on the path to DAC, then it is defeating anything Ether Regen may be doing. I am assuming then that is a way to feed the EtherRegen in which case, it doesn't do anything useful even according to them.
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The engineers I work with would find that claim highly amusing.Unfortunately, I think they are. The hilarious part is all the comments pitying the ASR unbelievers by those who bought into the fairytale and are hearing amazing improvements. "Lack of intellectual curiosity" according to @Superdad is dominating ASR
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So that is $320,000 in sales in one hour. Add another $160k for the 250 since then. Nearing a half million just like that.WOW!
Guess @Superdad doesn't mind breaking the law either? If what @amirm posted above is indeed accurate, that's a whole bunch of money based on 750 units so far.
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yep. The other products were just as successful financially which I'm totally good with. No problem making money and a lot of it...that's the whole purpose IMO as a capitalist. However, the end operational result of the device isn't.
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https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/guides/equipment-marketing-violations
I'm in Canada, I'm not sure if I can credibly file a complaint.
Also, filing a complaint because they failed to obtain certification isn't exactly classy.
I'm in Canada, I'm not sure if I can credibly file a complaint.
Also, filing a complaint because they failed to obtain certification isn't exactly classy.
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