..but Lintons are Rear Ported. I want speakers about 30cm from the wall. That will never work.
Why not?
..but Lintons are Rear Ported. I want speakers about 30cm from the wall. That will never work.
Why not?
And they will stay ported as that's how they are designed even when you plug them and put them to the back wall. You can DSP cut and iron them down under crossover points and you won't be getting or needing any port cuff out. You won't find compression high output mains this days even in PA. To a in space roll of you do crossover slope order to Butterworth quality paying attention especially to transition area and shaping independent as necessary (PEQ's). After removing room fundamental harmonic to even get started. If you want to spend more aim at really good 10" compression subs and aim how much they give in mid 30's for home to 88 dB reference that should work fine and bare in mind how subs measurements are mid field (2 m). For the sakes of reason another exactly same SVS sub will be more than fine...but Lintons are Rear Ported. I want speakers about 30cm from the wall. That will never work.
The SVS sub is not going anywhere. I was thinking about getting 2 but if you dont change seating position much, it doesnt really matter.And they will stay ported as that's how they are designed even when you plug them and put them to the back wall. You can DSP cut and iron them down under crossover points and you won't be getting or needing any port cuff out. You won't find compression high output mains this days even in PA. To a in space roll of you do crossover slope order to Butterworth quality paying attention especially to transition area and shaping independent as necessary (PEQ's). After removing room fundamental harmonic to even get started. If you want to spend more aim at really good 10" compression subs and aim how much they give in mid 30's for home to 88 dB reference that should work fine and bare in mind how subs measurements are mid field (2 m). For the sakes of reason another exactly same SVS sub will be more than fine.
As it's 2x 8" woofer's vs one which will arguably give +3 dB in the mid bass but even so distortion jumps fast under 100 Hz as they get to port and wild under it. But you cut that part of in 2.2 setup letting subs do it each per it's own chenel. Actually you do it higher in order to correctly implement equal loudness normalisation which knew is at 105 Hz as you need a lot of bass boost under and contained above it so 120 Hz and even 6.5" woofers can do it on their own but louder you want bigger it is or more of them and time domain isn't a issue too over 10" but even then not a big one especially on closed enclosure box.The SVS sub is not going anywhere. I was thinking about getting 2 but if you dont change seating position much, it doesnt really matter.
The Super Linton can be compared somewhat in Spinorama. It seems the revel f208 is better at low frequency. But its a close call furher down the road.
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It does, but even if they blow away the queens hifi herself: i just dont like the appearance of the Lintons. Many thanks but they wont be bought.As it's 2x 8" woofer's vs one which will arguably give +3 dB in the mid bass but even so distortion jumps fast under 100 Hz as they get to port and wild under it. But you cut that part of in 2.2 setup letting subs do it each per it's own chenel. Actually you do it higher in order to correctly implement equal loudness normalisation which knew is at 105 Hz as you need a lot of bass boost under and contained above it so 120 Hz and even 6.5" woofers can do it on their own but louder you want bigger it is or more of them and time domain isn't a issue too over 10" but even then not a big one especially on closed enclosure box.
I hope this makes sense to you.
Oh active would make the choice easier.For passive boxes, a seriously good powerful amp would help to 'open them out' a bit I'm sure, as any passive crossover gets in the way to some degree or other (one thing that the Super Linton attempts to minimise more than the previous model).
Are there no actives that could do it, such as KH150s if you sold the Neats and driving amp? They'll arguably sound clearer at a stroke and render the need for such high volume levels less necessary I suspect. The response can be tweaked to help positioning and th elarger bass driver would be less distorted in the bass at high levels anyway.
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At the desired volume levels you should consider renting some PA speakers. After 3 or 4 listening sessions your hearing will be so bad that your upgraditis will be cured.
Speakers are linear (as long as they are not over-driven) so a speaker that sounds (and measures) good at high levels will sound (and measure good) at lower levels.... with a couple of exceptions:Upgrade: What speaker does 100-105db well yet still delicate at lower levels?
Yes I knowOh active would make the choice easier.
But I invested a lot of money in a tiptop Quad 606 mkI, with a tiptop Quad34. Its such a heavenly combination I will never change. I will be buried with my 606 and 34. I will mention it on my tombstone. The Quad is such a gem people say i should get as neutral a speaker as possible, but probably everything will sound superb with them. The Neat isnt and in fact, the sx2 are quite limited. But the Quads make them sing. Highly, highly recommended.
- capable of 105db at 1 meter without problems
- passive. Non debatable
I want to play some music with big basguitar, drums, huge ensembles, maybe a part of a DJ set in a louder than loud setting for about 15 minutes per week, as the doctor ordered.
Have you used a decibel meter on your current speakers to see how loud the loudest you are running them is? I think 105db is within the range of PA speakers and almost no hi-fi/studio speakers within your budget are going to be happy at those levels, but then again, will your ears be happy at those levels?capable of 105db at 1 meter without problems
You clearly didn't read or watch any reviews:@Koeitje Yup, I registered the improved Super Linton. Still didnt convince me. No reviews on louder playing, unlike ATC. And if were slamming ATC for being conventional, the Lintons bring me back to the 70s. Visually not appealing. (that said, the drivers do look very nice).Its not the main thing but still. For the upgrade budget I want at least as nice looking as the Neats. EDIT: I did some more reading on the Lintons. The conclusion is they cannot be placed too close to a wall. Wich is what I want. Also, some question the huge price hike of the Super Linton over the normal one when in some measurements, they dont look that much different.
30cm from the wall is plenty. In fact the Super Lintons use an EBS alignment so they actually play really nicely close to a wall.problems reported with bass.
The Lintons look a very good speaker but not outstanding. At the moment, they are not in consideration for various reasons mentioned in previous postings.
Thanks for reminding though. I really like the drivers look.