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Yeah a great time listening and seeing Amir.Liked the part of integrity and honesty. that's what it's about in life isn't it.
Nice show Joe Compliments!
Nice show Joe Compliments!
I have a personal hypothesis about this I think everyone of these typical harcore audiophiles with tubes sticking out of their beard scares away at least 10 times the amount of people who could enjoy this as a hobby or just get good gear as a consumer . good riddance with them.
If someone just causally interested, just upgrading their hifi once every 10 years interacts with those guys with cable risers 10000$ power cables they are just going to look scared and buy a sonos speaker on amazon
.Been there done that .
Nowadays i say to friends just buy decent speakers not super expensive but you know just decent and enjoy, the rest is details one can fuzz about later .
Yessir! I would rather have an average income and and have great integrity than be rich with very little integrity. I wouldn't mind being rich with integrity though!
This has been my experience. As a kid, I couldn't get the guys at my local hifi shop to spend any time with me. When they did, they would show me their least expensive system that was way too expensive for a 12 year old kid.I have a personal hypothesis about this I think everyone of these typical harcore audiophiles with tubes sticking out of their beard scares away at least 10 times the amount of people who could enjoy this as a hobby or just get good gear as a consumer . good riddance with them.
If someone just causally interested, just upgrading their hifi once every 10 years interacts with those guys with cable risers 10000$ power cables they are just going to look scared and buy a sonos speaker on amazon
Been there done that .
Nowadays i say to friends just buy decent speakers not super expensive but you know just decent and enjoy, the rest is details one can fuzz about later .
A year or two ago, I went to a hifi shop nearby and I told the guy what he would recommend I just wanted some speakers for my garage to see what he would recommend. He said the least expensive speakers he had were some KEF LS50W's for $2000/pr...for a garage.
I think high prices, snobby behavior (from objective guys too...I'm sure I've been guilty of it at one time or another) and misinformation all drive new hobbyists away. Complexity is ok as long as there's a learning path that is based on reality. The community has to be welcoming, and we have to be ok recommending products that aren't the best, but are a good starting point for someone to move up.
End rant.
were those really his cheapest speakers? You would think he would want to get customers at the ground floor and then build a business with them that will be profitable for years to come.
Not even joking. I get tons of speakers sent in to me for review and here I am looking at $179/pr JBL 130's because @amirm mentioned it in on the show. I think speakers like that are what get people to buy better & more expensive speakers down the line.
along with the owner of Synergistic Research. You can talk about how well their cables pair with PS Audio components. 2 for 1 special.
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great interview both! i remember when joe came in with a little bit of a tough welcome. glad to see things worked out!
to the redditors with negative views, i find that a lot of them seem to have a caricature of ASR in mind. granted we can be pretty strident with our views, but if they see some of the discussions here (like how amir's review may not necessarily be tied in with "objective" things like harman preference scores) they might see a bit more nuance to the view here then just pure "numbers good listening bad"
is it possible to have this on podcast? youtube ain't always the best UI to listen to such long interviews with
to the redditors with negative views, i find that a lot of them seem to have a caricature of ASR in mind. granted we can be pretty strident with our views, but if they see some of the discussions here (like how amir's review may not necessarily be tied in with "objective" things like harman preference scores) they might see a bit more nuance to the view here then just pure "numbers good listening bad"
is it possible to have this on podcast? youtube ain't always the best UI to listen to such long interviews with
If you have an Android, get the app called "NewPipe". It's not on the Google Play store because it's basically an app that allows you to watch/listen to Youtube in the background and without ads. It also allows audio or video downloads of youtube videos.
or just use an online youtube-to-mp3 converter, like this: https://ytmp3.cc/youtube-to-mp3/
I've met Paul at RMAF and he's seemed nice enough. I tried to invite Steve G but no response.
I'll pass on this one.
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@joentell You had a question at the beginning of the interview about video frame rate. I would recommend Mark Schubin's lectures:
Thank you for that. I will watch them later. I browsed around for a bit on those videos looking for the parts where he's talking about 24p. My camera can do up to 240P so I've experimented a bit.
My guess is it has something to do with how 24p motion blur looks. I think it emulates the natural blur we perceive when viewing something passively whereas for gaming, when you're actively watching, higher frame rates look better.
You can play around with motion blur as well, and directors do opt for different amounts depending on the feel they want:
Thank you. Video is one area where I have a pretty good understanding considering it's what I do as a profession.
If you're also interested in this, check out this company Tessive that was bought out by RealD. I linked to some videos where they show how they can add realistic motion blur to higher frame rates so that someone could shoot at 120p and adjust the motion blur/shutter angle in post to give the videographer flexibility.
I don't think it's just an association effect that 30p or higher is the soap opera effect. I as I've experimented with this software in the past, I felt like my brain could relax between 24p-30p. Maybe it has something to do with suspension of disbelief. I'm not sure the how yet, just that there's something more than just nostalgia and association. I could be wrong.
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IIRC 24fps has a bunch of limiting factors which keep it looking realistic: dynamic range (visual, from light to dark), colorspace, resolution and field of view, not the least of which is how fast things can move and how fast the camera can move (as well as the aspect ratio). I don't believe it has any natural basis other than us getting used to it, since the rate was arbitrarily set by the film industry.
I think a lot has to do with tradition, not so much soap opera (as who watches those?) but moreso consumer video, especially if the color grading is minimal (I was flicked channel to one movie recently and thought it was a news segment even though it was a 2 person dial is scene there was 0 color grading and the framing was like a news interview).
You know you are watching a movie when it’s 24p and the color grading is done well.
Here is a 60fps interpolation of Thanos vs Iron Man in Infinity War, you can tell but it’s not as jarring as some other 60fps content (I’ve seen some interpolations where it looks terrible):
Well, not arbitrarily. 15fps was used in silent film as they found that to br the minimum for cohesive movement (also allowing leeway for hand cranking). ”Talkies” came along and they found that they needed 24fps for lip movements to look like they sync up with the audio.
This is turning into Video Science Review. Lol. We're all just huge nerds.
That Marvel clip you showed probably doesn't look as jarring because the motion blur is equivalent to a 1/48 shutter speed (180 degree shutter angle) for 24p video. I think what's jarring is when there is less motion blur on higher frame rates. To me that's what isn't realistic. So specifically, I think 24p motion blur with a 180 degree shutter angle "feels right" to me. The Saving Private Ryan scene when the get to the shore is shot in high frame rate, but the movie is in 24p.
Another that leads me to believe there's something more to that combination of frame rate and motion blur is that they still use that for animated films (like Pixar movies) where they could easily use different frame rates, yet the settle on these. We're not using film anymore so why would they do that?
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