• WANTED: Happy members who like to discuss audio and other topics related to our interest. Desire to learn and share knowledge of science required. There are many reviews of audio hardware and expert members to help answer your questions. Click here to have your audio equipment measured for free!

(Unofficial) RME UCX II Interface Review and Measurements

Rja4000

Major Contributor
Forum Donor
Joined
May 31, 2019
Messages
2,681
Likes
4,219
Location
Liège, Belgium
Hi

Here are some measurements of the new RME UCX II Interface
Please apologize if there is any error here.
Don't hesitate to ask or flag in case of doubt.


The RME UCX II is a new small USB interface from RME, belonging to the UFX II and UFX+ family.

Its small size (1/2 rack wide and 1U high) is the same than the RME ADI-2 Pro fs R that I use for measurements.
The purpose is very different, though.

You see both on this picture.
The UCX II is on top.
_R9A6579.png


This is a powerful small interface, if limited in number of IOs:
USB, of course,
2 Microphone inputs, 2 instrument inputs, 4 line inputs,
6 line outputs and 1 stereo Headphones output
There are also connectors for MIDI In and Out, a configurable WordClock connector, ADAT in and out, and a USB DuRec slot.

_R9A6581.png


It also has AES/EBU + SPDIF in and out connectors through the use of this adaptor that plugs on the rear DB9.
The same than the one used for the RME ADI-2 Pro fs R.
_R9A6583.png


Power supply is the same lockable 12V DC 2A external that we find with the ADI-2 Pro fs R.
That of course means that it's possible to run the device on a 12V battery.
A very positive point in this case.
_R9A6582.png


Functionalities
This is a powerful little interface
I invite you to read and look at tutorial videos

As usual with RME, the drivers on Windows are very stable.

And the (provided) Totalmix application is really easy to use.
So there is much more in there than just good measurements.

2021-09-20 19_22_30-RME TotalMix FX_ Fireface UCX II (1) - 48.0k.png




Measurements
I always perform my measurements using Virtins MultiInstrument 3.9 and some .Net application and SQL database of mines.
I own a license of MI.
The hardware consists of the RME ADI-2 Pro fs R.
A positively incredible device, with state-of-the-art performances, both for ADC and DAC.

Unless specified, I measure using the ADI-2 in "mono" mode, to benefit of a slightly increased performance, by summing (averaging) the 2 ADC or DAC channels.

I purchased the RME UCX II from a French shop.



DAC side measurements

Dashboard 4Vrms
(48kHz)
We get a SINAD just shy of 105dB.
Not state of the art, but good enough for the usecase. And in line with the specs.
(NB: Voltage is not measured, but computed from 19dBu)
EDIT: I remeasured and updated with ADC range of +24dBu, which gives better result.
RME UCX II DAC Dashboard 3.png



I plotted SINAD vs Level for the 3 available output ranges
It is noticeable that the +4dBu is in fact exactly matching the +13dBu curve.
This most probably means that the +4dBu range is provided for convenience only, by limiting the level in digital domain.
2021-09-13 22_23_03-RME UCX II Main Output.png


Jitter
(Source = USB, but we get exactly the same measurement from AES)
RME UCX II Jitter USB 19dBu.png


Level Linearity
Nothing to worry about
RME UCX II Linearity.png


IMD vs Level
RME UCX II IMD 19dBu 2.png


32 tones
No issue
This is using Amir's APx555 test file
32nd tone isn't displayed, since it's at 14Hz
EDIT: I now use the WAV file (better crest factor), another FFT Window function, 8 averages and proper 192kHz frequency and 256k points to align with Amir's 32 tones.
RME UCX II 32 tones 192kHz WAV.png


Filter @48kHz
EDIT: I re-measured this one after @MC_RME's comment. My original plot was using wong windowing.
RME UCX II Filter 48kHz.png

NB: This is a measurement I wanted to achieve for a long time but could never have to work.
Here it does, since the ADI-2 and UCX II have 2 different drivers. And MultiInstrument then allows to set a different clock for each device for a measurement. :)

THD vs Frequency @4Vrms (90kHz BW)
EDIT: At first, I had higher values and some strange peaks at low frequencies.
I now limit the number of harmonics to 5.
RME UCX II THD vs Freq 90kHz 5H.png



Square wave
I've run some more analysis on this.
Warning: as you can read below, I'm mostly experimenting here, so don't attach too much importance to this measurement

At low level, here is what the 1kHz square wave looks like
RME UCX II Square 19dBu -19dBu out.png


But if we run it at 0dBFS, it is somehow truncated
We see a reduction of 1.5dB of the Crest factor
Not too bad, though. Most interfaces are probably worse.
EDIT: Actually, the level reaching the ADC is higher than the output range of the DAC by almost 2dB, at 20.9dBu.
This is what I wanted to demonstrate.
(This is a torture test. Nothing looks like a square wave in real life)
RME UCX II Square 19dBu.png


As from -1.5dBFS, there is no more truncation (Edited. See below)
RME UCX II Square 19dBu -1.5dBFS.png


Frequency response à 96kHz
Here in 13dBu range. 19dBu is identical
For reference, the RME ADI-2 Pro fs R is plotted in red, since its ADC is not completely flat at that frequency.

RME UCX II FFR 96kHz 13dBu.png



... ADC measurements will come later
As an appetizer, here is the
SINAD plot for Instrument input
2021-09-14 08_29_05-RME UCX II Instrum3.png


and here is the
Dashboard @4V in Loopback mode
(DAC + ADC = RME UCX II)
We clear more than required CD SINAD for the loopback.
Good news if you want to insert an external analog effect, which will most likely perform much worse than this.
RME UCX II Dashboard Loopback.png


(In attachments, you may still find the plots that I updated, for reference)
 

Attachments

  • RME UCX II Dashboard 2.png
    RME UCX II Dashboard 2.png
    657 KB · Views: 488
  • RME UCX II 32 tones 19dBu.png
    RME UCX II 32 tones 19dBu.png
    407.9 KB · Views: 522
  • RME UCX II Filter.png
    RME UCX II Filter.png
    359.9 KB · Views: 335
  • RME UCX II THD vs Freq 19dBu.png
    RME UCX II THD vs Freq 19dBu.png
    114.9 KB · Views: 561
Last edited:

AnalogSteph

Major Contributor
Joined
Nov 6, 2018
Messages
3,334
Likes
3,278
Location
.de
Below -5dBFS, there is no more truncation.
You have to dial things down that far? It is obvious that the filter can't handle the big +3.75 dBFS peaks, but still does OK at +2.2 dBFS. (That would be in line with the purported ~+2 dBFS handling for AKM DACs, an AK4458 in this case.) So I would have expected everything to be OK by -2 dB at least and -4 dB at most.

What is peculiar is that the filter quite clearly is IIR, but from the DAC datasheet even the short delay filters appear to have a fixed group delay. Either that is not actually accurate and the GD variation was just left out or there's some DSP upsampling going on (but that wouldn't be matching what we are seeing, as I would expect hard clipping at 0 dBFS).
 

MC_RME

Addicted to Fun and Learning
Technical Expert
Audio Company
Joined
May 15, 2019
Messages
854
Likes
3,564
Square wave 1 kHz from MI into DSO of MI, UCX II and ADI-2 Pro at 44.1 or 48 kHz, rest as shown above. For me it was enough to reduce the output by 1.7 dB in TM FX to get an unclipped ringing square.

sshot-126.png
 
Last edited:

MC_RME

Addicted to Fun and Learning
Technical Expert
Audio Company
Joined
May 15, 2019
Messages
854
Likes
3,564
The DAC filter measurement is highly overloaded, which causes the out-of-band noise to rise (attenuation too low). Correct one should look like this.

Fireface UCX II- DAC Filter-2.png
 
OP
R

Rja4000

Major Contributor
Forum Donor
Joined
May 31, 2019
Messages
2,681
Likes
4,219
Location
Liège, Belgium
Square wave 1 kHz from MI into DSO of MI, UCX II and ADI-2 Pro at 44.1 kHz, rest as explained above. For me it was enough to reduce the output by 1.7 dB in TM FX to get an unclipped ringing square.
I'll do it again.

Anyway, I'll change text.
Since, if I'm not mistaken, what we see here is that the UCX II is actually able to output a peak voltage above its maximum range of 19dBu.
That's what I was trying to measure, by the way.
 

MC_RME

Addicted to Fun and Learning
Technical Expert
Audio Company
Joined
May 15, 2019
Messages
854
Likes
3,564
I'll do it again.

Anyway, I'll change text.
Since, if I'm not mistaken, what we see here is that the UCX II is actually able to output a peak voltage above its maximum range of 19dBu.
That's what I was trying to measure, by the way.

For that I play back a 11.025 kHz sine* sampled at 45°, which gives exactly +3.01 dBFS. You can easily use any volume control (also TM FX) to reduce it in level and find out exactly what is possible or not. And to check such + dBFS levels you need a level meter with oversampling - included in DigiCheck.
*Became popular when TC Electronics employees researched intersample peaks of CD players many years ago.
 

Tks

Major Contributor
Joined
Apr 1, 2019
Messages
3,221
Likes
5,494
What objectivists really want from RME: Sorry, couldn't resist. And sorry for the awful photoshop. And make pretend the lower Pro is the DAC!

objectivists.jpg
 

Blumlein 88

Grand Contributor
Forum Donor
Joined
Feb 23, 2016
Messages
20,521
Likes
37,050
I've been using noise at -4 dbFS. I saw that first in the Stereophile testing and messing around with it just found you rarely overload if you do that. If you run noise long enough however you may need to use -10 dbFS. For short bits of test noise -4 dbFS is pretty good.
 
OP
R

Rja4000

Major Contributor
Forum Donor
Joined
May 31, 2019
Messages
2,681
Likes
4,219
Location
Liège, Belgium
What objectivists really want from RME: Sorry, couldn't resist. And sorry for the awful photoshop. And make pretend the lower Pro is the DAC!

View attachment 154740
With the ADI-2 Pro, you just need a cable to get balanced phones out.
There is so much power at the tap that I don't really feel the need, anyway, but...
 

Tks

Major Contributor
Joined
Apr 1, 2019
Messages
3,221
Likes
5,494
With the ADI-2 Pro, you just need a cable to get balanced phones out.
There is so much power at the tap that I don't really feel the need, anyway, but...

I know professionals like using these TRS type connectors for balanced duties, but the whole reason I like XLR is due to the solid connection, and how the pins instantly contact. Otherwise I get buzzing or slight distortion as I'm inserting otherwise unbalanced connectors like 3.5 or quarter inch connectors if my device is powered on. XLR from a usage standpoint to me is just so much better personally speaking. I don't want a balanced cable for headphones where I have to insert into two seperate jacks. Just straight up annoying.

But what I was hinting at, is I'd like a balanced headphone-out on the DAC while being served through a 4-pin XLR single connection (seeing as how it's a balanced DAC anyway). And since it's a home use device, there's no need to cater to studio/pro scene that uses quarter jacks for everything.
 
OP
R

Rja4000

Major Contributor
Forum Donor
Joined
May 31, 2019
Messages
2,681
Likes
4,219
Location
Liège, Belgium
THD vs Frequency
I now limited the number of harmonics to 5
Not sure how many harmonics @amirm uses for is THD vs Frequency plot
But he recommends to use 5 in this post.

Here is how it compares
The Black line is the new THD vs Frequency with 90kHz bandwidth
The blue dashed line is THD with Bandwidth limited to 20kHz
The Purple dashed line is my original measurement, with no limit to the number of harmonics.

I'll update th "Review" with the new plot.
000592-THD vs Frequency_Multiple_20210921_1225.png
 

MC_RME

Addicted to Fun and Learning
Technical Expert
Audio Company
Joined
May 15, 2019
Messages
854
Likes
3,564
Yep. Cables that can easily slide out are fed through the hook and will be super stable in their sockets. Here mostly applies to optical and MIDI, but could also be useful for USB B and USB A.
 
Last edited:
Top Bottom