Ultimate 1ET400A Purifi Amplifier sonic shootout - €820 to €8,344

[mocenigo]

Need to add Vera Audio to the EU column.

isn’t it Norway? Then it is not in the EU.

 

[Gorgonzola]

True, but if something happens you have to ship to the US. Higher costs, a lot of paperwork to go through customs each time. VTV build quality is, IMNSHO, quite on the low side. Have a look at the Apollon Audio Purifi Mini Stereo Amplifier - for the stunning build quality it is a steal. And service directly in the EU.

Roberto

The Apollon MIni is indeed elegant with many professional touches. However one ought to ask whether results in significantly better or safer operation.

VTV builds are, OTOH, essentially assembly jobs, and yes, we must allow rather DIY, however they are adequate to the task.

This is the inside of my own VTV stereo with VTV buffers. It looks basic but sufficiently tidy ...

 

[Semla]

isn’t it Norway? Then it is not in the EU.

so is Nord ;-) (UK based)

 

[Semla]

This is the inside of my own VTV stereo with VTV buffers. It looks basic but sufficiently tidy ...
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Unused drill holes are almost a brand differentiator for VTV... maybe it helps with airflow.

 

[Billy Budapest]

isn’t it Norway? Then it is not in the EU.

Good point. So those goods coming from Norway into the EU would be subject to tariff, etc.

 

[Billy Budapest]

so is Nord ;-) (UK based)

I think I broke out UK from the EU, owing to Brexit. If not, then point well taken!

 

[Gorgonzola]

Unused drill holes are almost a brand differentiator for VTV... maybe it helps with airflow.

How much should one pay to avoid unused holes?

 

[GDK]

Unused drill holes are almost a brand differentiator for VTV... maybe it helps with airflow.

I think they're for speed...

 

[Semla]

How much should one pay to avoid unused holes?

About the price of a pack of chewing gum (DIY) or whatever Audiophonics is charging now.

I'm sure their amps sound good. I just wonder how VTV end up doing all that unnecessary work on their cases.

 

[Gorgonzola]

About the price of a pack of chewing gum (DIY) or whatever Audiophonics is charging now.

I'm sure their amps sound good. I just wonder how VTV end up doing all that unnecessary work on their cases.

Likewise.

Presumably VTV orders the cases from a supplier who drills the holes such that a single case type can accommodate multiple configurations; cheaper than having different case for each.

 

[Billy Budapest]

Likewise.

Presumably VTV orders the cases from a supplier who drills the holes such that a single case type can accommodate multiple configurations; cheaper than having different case for each.

Their EVAL1 case looks just like the Ghent case with VTV machined onto the face. Maybe Ghent supplies all their cases?

 

[ABall]

The Apollon MIni is indeed elegant with many professional touches. However one ought to ask whether results in significantly better or safer operation.

VTV builds are, OTOH, essentially assembly jobs, and yes, we must allow rather DIY, however they are adequate to the task.

This is the inside of my own VTV stereo with VTV buffers. It looks basic but sufficiently tidy ...
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Wasnt there performance issues all be it small using this layout as identified in reviews here? I think VTV has taken this on board though as his new offering looks like this.

 

[mSpot]

Wasnt there performance issues all be it small using this layout as identified in reviews here? I think VTV has taken this on board though as his new offering looks like this.

That is a different model. VTV offers 3 different models of Purifi stereo amp and they have different layouts and come in different size cases. The stereo models are EVAL1 buffers (the photo you posted), VTV custom buffers (the one @Gorganzola posted), and with dual mono power supplies.

 

[mocenigo]

Good point. So those goods coming from Norway into the EU would be subject to tariff, etc.

It all depends... For instance Abrahamsen Audio was (or still is?) manufacturing its amps in Sweden, so they could be sold without going through customs to the EU, and I guess also to Norway (the Nordic Council and its relations to the EU are a weird thing). So maybe Vera is doing the same? I absolutely do not know. But if they manufacture and ship from Norway, it's tariffs then.

 

[ABall]

That is a different model. VTV offers 3 different models of Purifi stereo amp and they have different layouts and come in different size cases. The stereo models are EVAL1 buffers (the photo you posted), VTV custom buffers (the one @Gorganzola posted), and with dual mono power supplies.

Yes I was aware of that, not sure what it has to do with my statement. I was pointing out that the NEW (it has NEW stamped in red) stereo Eval has the layout that was discussed to provide less power supply coupling on the channel closest, I would not be surprised if they all end up laid out like the new Eval 1 regardless of buffer, unless of course the buffers are just too big for the cases he has access to, I know which one I would buy!

 

[TabCam]

isn't it Norway? Then it is not in the EU.

It all depends... For instance Abrahamsen Audio was (or still is?) manufacturing its amps in Sweden, so they could be sold without going through customs to the EU, and I guess also to Norway (the Nordic Council and its relations to the EU are a weird thing). So maybe Vera is doing the same? I absolutely do not know. But if they manufacture and ship from Norway, it's tariffs then.

Norway is member of the EEU, so economic and judicial rights are protected when ordering from within the E`U. Since the Brexit, ordering from the UK (or any other non-EEU country like the Sweden and the US) poses more problems for EU citizens, both economically and judicially.

 

[roffe]

Norway is member of the EEU, so economic and judicial rights are protected when ordering from within the E`U. Since the Brexit, ordering from the UK (or any other non-EEU country like the Sweden and the US) poses more problems for EU citizens, both economically and judicially.

Try again with "the Sweden"...

 

[Billy Budapest]

Try again with "the Sweden"...

Maybe he meant to say “the Swedes!”

 

[roffe]

Maybe he meant to say “the Swedes!”

Well the Swedes are EU-citizens so there's that....

 

[Billy Budapest]

Well the Swedes are EU-citizens so there's that....

I figured out what the confusion is—Sweden is a member of the EU but is not part of the Eurozone.