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Typical lifespan of actives v passives?

If loudspeakers are exposed to sunlight—for instance, every day—the surface hardens due to UV light and becomes brittle (though this is often visible only under high magnification). This damage is then exacerbated by the movement of the driver. Most people are unaware of these long-term effects. Moreover, it makes no difference whether the ambient temperature is warm or cold. Depending on the geographical region, this can amount to anywhere between 10,000 and 20,000 hours of sun exposure over a ten-year period.

Black rubber surrounds have carbon black in their chemical mixture which should block UV from penetrating though? It would increase the absorption of the IR in the sunlight which could be the culprit? There was a video from Dynaudio which argued it was the IR radiation in sunlight which causes the damage to black surrounds by cooking them. https://dynaudio.com/magazine/2025/february/sunlight-damage-ask-the-expert
The issue observed with the Salon 2 speakers appears to be the result of severe overloading, improper sizing of the surround—or perhaps a combination of both.
I have frequently encountered this type of damage when loudspeakers are used for watching movies—specifically without a subwoofer and without limiting the low-frequency output directed to the main speakers.
While owners often claim they did not overload the speakers, this is simply because they failed to notice when it was happening.
In many films—particularly action movies and those featuring loud, orchestral scores—the low-frequency content is often many times more intense than that found in standard music recordings.
With standard music, you can usually tell immediately when the speakers are reaching their limits; with movies, however, you typically cannot—something I have personally verified through experimentation.
The typical signs of overload damage in such cases include damage and cracks in the cone itself, right where it meets the rubber surround (there are some interesting images illustrating this on KEF’s aluminum cones, where the cones can literally shatter or tear apart); cracks along the inner fold of the rubber surround, right at the junction with the cone; and cracks along the outer fold of the rubber surround, where it joins the driver frame.
You think programming a high pass filter as a rumble filter would be a good idea to extend the surround lifespan?
 
Black rubber surrounds have carbon black in their chemical mixture which should block UV from penetrating though? It would increase the absorption of the IR in the sunlight which could be the culprit? There was a video from Dynaudio which argued it was the IR radiation in sunlight which causes the damage to black surrounds by cooking them. https://dynaudio.com/magazine/2025/february/sunlight-damage-ask-the-expert

You think programming a high pass filter as a rumble filter would be a good idea to extend the surround lifespan?
We manufacture the most powerful high-energy products utilizing UV and infrared radiation, and we supply them to industries worldwide—including for applications such as aging and material testing. So, I certainly know what I’m talking about.
Infrared radiation merely heats up the rubber; it leads only to thermal aging—much in the same way that excessive ambient temperatures do. As a general rule, one should protect many materials and devices from this. I have personally seen CDs, CD cases, and sunglasses that have melted while sitting on dashboards.

UV radiation, on the other hand, directly attacks the rubber. Of course, carbon black, pigments, and other fillers serve as a protective barrier; however, one cannot incorporate these in very high proportions, as doing so would significantly degrade the material's physical properties. Furthermore, the outermost surface—the part exposed to the elements—is, first and foremost, composed of rubber.
As a general principle, one should not subject UV-sensitive materials or surfaces to years of continuous UV radiation exposure.

Just as a side note: car tires contain a much higher proportion of carbon black (approximately 30%). Have you ever seen what rubber looks like after being subjected to a simulated 10 years of UV radiation? You certainly wouldn't want to drive on it.

This has nothing to do with surround sound.
In fact, it makes sense to apply a subsonic filter—or, better yet, a custom-tailored high-pass filter—to every loudspeaker, thereby relieving it of the frequencies it is unable to reproduce anyway.
Every loudspeaker benefits from this acoustically as well.
However, the only truly effective way to achieve this is through a DSP.

Even worse is the use of a subwoofer without simultaneously relieving the main loudspeakers via a high-pass filter. For one thing, this results in very poor sound quality and wastes a great deal of potential; furthermore—and this is a particularly common pitfall—owners often fail to notice when their standard loudspeakers are being overloaded.
 
We manufacture the most powerful high-energy products utilizing UV and infrared radiation, and we supply them to industries worldwide—including for applications such as aging and material testing. So, I certainly know what I’m talking about.
Infrared radiation merely heats up the rubber; it leads only to thermal aging—much in the same way that excessive ambient temperatures do. As a general rule, one should protect many materials and devices from this. I have personally seen CDs, CD cases, and sunglasses that have melted while sitting on dashboards.

Just as a side note: car tires contain a much higher proportion of carbon black (approximately 30%). Have you ever seen what rubber looks like after being subjected to a simulated 10 years of UV radiation? You certainly wouldn't want to drive on it.
Regarding the side-note: many places in the world will not allow a more than 6 year old tire to be installed on a car (as in you are in a shop that has NEW but 6 year old date coded tires to sell you). And if a tire is 10 years old (perhaps your car stays in a heated and airconditioned) garage, it is illegal for that tire to be on a vehicle.
Just the exposure to air (ozone, I guess) will deteriorate the rubber.
I have seen cars stored in climate controlled environments (that were never moved once there) that needed every piece of rubber on the car replaced at 10 years.
Just because there is no UV exposure does not mean that your get a break from keeping tabs on the rubberized parts by examining them closely at least annually.
 
What manufacturers were these?
dynaudio bm15a amps failed cost me £500 and two different repair technicians to get fixed .rather than having to send off to an authorised repair center .in fairness the guy that finally fixed them said he was really impressed with how well built they were with regards to heat
esi near 08 have failed twice now .cheap caps
alesis one mk2 have failed twice now . a resistor was under rated for heat and right next to something that gets hot .
 
Which make my DIY subs active, as the Pre-Amp Left & Right line out goes into a crossover with HP and LP filters that then distribute those to the line in to the stereo amp for the left & right speakers and the line in for the individual amps for each sub.
So: this setup makes all of the speakers active, correct? Active but not with onboard, built in amps?
No, this setup makes only the sub active, as your speakers still use a passive crossover after the power amp feeding them. Only exception would be if the speaker has no crossover at all like when using full range drivers.
 
dynaudio bm15a amps failed cost me £500 and two different repair technicians to get fixed .rather than having to send off to an authorised repair center .in fairness the guy that finally fixed them said he was really impressed with how well built they were with regards to heat
esi near 08 have failed twice now .cheap caps
alesis one mk2 have failed twice now . a resistor was under rated for heat and right next to something that gets hot .
I've had to fix those BM15s once. They're not too complex, the usual fix is limiter related.
 
No, this setup makes only the sub active, as your speakers still use a passive crossover after the power amp feeding them. Only exception would be if the speaker has no crossover at all like when using full range drivers.
Thanks for clarifying, I was a bit confuseded. (Yes, I meant to spell it that way).
 
I've had to fix those BM15s once. They're not too complex, the usual fix is limiter related.
yeah agree this was more than that . there was a couple parts fried i think the first person i sent it to messed it up worse .
im not that keep on them anyway apart from the bass . the passive version i also have is smother but the sound changes too much as you move around the room .I like it when it sounds similar when you are walking around and stuff
 
dynaudio bm15a amps failed cost me £500 and two different repair technicians to get fixed .rather than having to send off to an authorised repair center .in fairness the guy that finally fixed them said he was really impressed with how well built they were with regards to heat
esi near 08 have failed twice now .cheap caps
alesis one mk2 have failed twice now . a resistor was under rated for heat and right next to something that gets hot .
Do you keep them on all the time or do you turn them on and off before and after use?
 
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