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Turntable platter and record damping

Can you people believe this caveman crap ???
Seriously folks, it ain't 1965 any more. :facepalm:
True, but some of us can't justify replacing the LPs we have with CDs or the like and rarely stream, so we play what we have as well as we can.
 
These can easily be measured on many turntables, by turning off the motor, and resting the needle on the platter/mat itself (or on a record surface).
Great idea and approach, it's the only way to clearly hear the intrusive issues since otherwise most of them disappear under the surface noise and the rest of vinyls other distortions.
I have some rarities recorded in the 1930's through to the 1950's - this stuff does not exist in digital...
Also some of the vinyl mastered in the 1970's to 1980's, the original mastering is superior to subsequent re-releases in digital.
For these few cases, why not just create a needle-drop recording using the best conditions you have available and finally remove the need to put up with all these crazy issues and inconveniences. I tried to do all my recordings in the early AM, like 1-5am when road traffic was at it's minimum and AC line issues were also lowest. ;)
 
For these few cases, why not just create a needle-drop recording using the best conditions you have available and finally remove the need to put up with all these crazy issues and inconveniences. I tried to do all my recordings in the early AM, like 1-5am when road traffic was at it's minimum and AC line issues were also lowest. ;)
That's what I started doing... never finished it though...
 
My Revolver circa 1988 came with a felt platter mat & small rubber clamp they called a pig. Can't remember what that stands for but it still holds an LP in place in 2025. I do remember that the small shop/retailer had a deal price on a red plinth model & I brought it home. Mrs Natural made me sleep on the sofa until it was exchanged for the black one.
 
My Revolver circa 1988 came with a felt platter mat & small rubber clamp they called a pig. Can't remember what that stands for but it still holds an LP in place in 2025. I do remember that the small shop/retailer had a deal price on a red plinth model & I brought it home. Mrs Natural made me sleep on the sofa until it was exchanged for the black one.
WoW, she's really into color, what was the problem? It didn't match the drapes? :p
 
- there really was no problem Sal. Kinda funny how such small things matter : both colors sound(ed) the same : = )
 
My Revolver circa 1988 came with a felt platter mat & small rubber clamp they called a pig. Can't remember what that stands for but it still holds an LP in place in 2025. I do remember that the small shop/retailer had a deal price on a red plinth model & I brought it home. Mrs Natural made me sleep on the sofa until it was exchanged for the black one.
The Revolver clamp (pig) didn't stand for anything. In a magazine interview at the time, it was named after the Revolver owner saw a fresh batch off the moulding machine that to them looked like a sow with piglets feeding. That's probably a post-rationalisation as each one just looked like a pigs teat.

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That's what I started doing... never finished it though...
I did it. Its a good way of listening to all those records you haven't played in years.

with tools like Vinyl Studio you can clean up the sound of 'well loved' records that have been to a few parties.

I love the convenience of being able to play them away from my record deck. They are high quality transcripts of the artifacts that I possess. Some of them are 78s bought by my father in the 1940s. I don't want the version that some at Spotify thinks is how it should sound. I want it as close as I can to how it sounded when it was new.
 
I did it. Its a good way of listening to all those records you haven't played in years.

with tools like Vinyl Studio you can clean up the sound of 'well loved' records that have been to a few parties.

I love the convenience of being able to play them away from my record deck. They are high quality transcripts of the artifacts that I possess. Some of them are 78s bought by my father in the 1940s. I don't want the version that some at Spotify thinks is how it should sound. I want it as close as I can to how it sounded when it was new.
I too have recordings from my father, made in the 1930's to early 1950's...

With current tools, we can make them sound better than they ever have - but of course they are always limited by the limitations of the recording gear at the time (it is surprising how good they can be!).

One of the problems, is that the RIAA was not a standard at the time, and with the records I have, there is no information as to what encoding/decoding is assumed - so all I can do is select a curve by ear... - there were a heck of a lot of different EQ's in use all over the world before RIAA became the defacto standard in the late 1960's... (and some of my records come from 1920's Poland... what EQ were they using !? others from 1930's to 1950's France... again no idea what was in vogue there!)
 
One of the problems, is that the RIAA was not a standard at the time, and with the records I have, there is no information as to what encoding/decoding is assumed - so all I can do is select a curve by ear... - there were a heck of a lot of different EQ's in use all over the world before RIAA became the defacto standard in the late 1960's... (and some of my records come from 1920's Poland... what EQ were they using !? others from 1930's to 1950's France... again no idea what was in vogue there!)
By-ear seems like the best solution. And that's easier if you digitize so you can take the time, once, to tweak the sound of each recording.

In the really early days I doubt they had and any recording EQ at all, and the early gramophones didn't have any electronics so any "tuning" was mechanical (the horn, etc.).

I heard one of those wind-up gramophones once and it sounded pretty good, and it was surprisingly loud (in a bedroom-sized room with hard surfaces). I'm sure the record was in exceptional condition. I'm not saying it sounded like a CD but I remember being surprised and I don't remember noise or distortion. It MIGHT have sounded better than my mother's 78's on my parent's stereo. I thought those sounded pretty bad, and it wasn't "my music".
I have seen a list of EQ curves for 78's from different record companies and different time periods but that's probably for records made in the 1940's and 1950's (when record players had electronics) and I'm sure it was incomplete. And they may not be valid on a modern system with flat frequency response. Most of that old tube equipment had high & low frequency roll-off and the record companies probably took that into account.
 
I too have recordings from my father, made in the 1930's to early 1950's...

With current tools, we can make them sound better than they ever have - but of course they are always limited by the limitations of the recording gear at the time (it is surprising how good they can be!).

One of the problems, is that the RIAA was not a standard at the time, and with the records I have, there is no information as to what encoding/decoding is assumed - so all I can do is select a curve by ear... - there were a heck of a lot of different EQ's in use all over the world before RIAA became the defacto standard in the late 1960's... (and some of my records come from 1920's Poland... what EQ were they using !? others from 1930's to 1950's France... again no idea what was in vogue there!)
One of the advantages of not having 'golden ears' is that when I try subtly different EQs, while I can tell they are different, I can't tell which is correct.

The software is great at getting rid of the sort of scratches and noise that disrupt the listening experience. If it's really bad or the needle just wont track, you can always plice a couple of second in from spotify!

I did manage to resurrect a 78 that broke in two in transit. Sellotape and a lot of patience
 
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