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Robciak

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Hi, I’d like to share my latest turntable measurement procedure that I’ve been working on. It’s still under development, so I’ll focus more on describing the procedure than on the results or overall quality of the tested turntable.

Any comments or suggestions are more than welcome!

Tested turntable: Audio-Technica AT-LP140XP
Vinyl record: “Turntable Test Vinyl Record – Laboratory Edition,” provided by Unitra LINK
Signal analyzer: RME Fireface UC and Audio Precision APx500 FLEX

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In terms of repeatability and measurement quality, I’m aware that a lot depends on the physical setup of the cartridge and stylus. Even the test vinyl is intended more for setup than for precise measurements. On the other hand, most turntables are delivered partially assembled and only require attaching the headshell and setting the tracking force and anti-skating according to the manual. This provides fairly repeatable conditions and allows evaluation of a specific model at a satisfactory level.

All measurements were conducted without a preamplifier; the turntable was connected directly to the RME interface and grounded to it. The RIAA curve was applied only for frequency response measurements (this will be noted where relevant).

1. RMS and FFT​

Let’s start with the basic RMS value and FFT response for a 1 kHz signal. To capture these parameters, I used side C, track 3, which contains a reference 1 kHz, 0 dB, mono in-phase signal.

As you can see, I should adjust the cartridge.

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FFT Length: 96000, FFT Window: AP-Equiripple, Averages: 10

2. No-signal measurement​

Side B of the vinyl is dedicated to verify anti-skating, but it also includes a silent track that allows measurement of self-noise. Here are the results.
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FFT Length: 96000, FFT Window: AP-Equiripple, Averages: 10

3. Frequency response​

Side A includes three test signals with a pilot tone that allow measurement of the cartridge’s frequency response:

Track 1: 20 Hz – 20 kHz, log sweep, −20 dB
Track 2: 20 Hz – 15 kHz, log sweep, −14 dB
Track 3: 20 Hz – 2 kHz, log sweep, 0 dB

Each signal covers a different frequency range and level, which is related to the physical limitations of vinyl records caused by RIAA equalization. Track 3 allows for a good signal-to-noise ratio but has a limited frequency range. Track 1 covers the full hearing range but the signal is reduced by 20 dB, making it very low, especially without a preamp. Track 2 is a sweet spot, taking into account the limitations of the phono cartridge in reproducing high frequencies.

Below are measurements including both raw and equalized (according to the RIAA curve) frequency responses.

Track 1
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Track 2
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Track 3
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Side D includes two additional tracks for frequency response analysis. The first is a logarithmic sweep (20 Hz–15 kHz, −14 dB) with a slow rise, lasting over 100 seconds. It allows for more detailed frequency characteristics and local nuances. The second track has the same parameters but uses a linear frequency sweep.

Below you can find the graph. As you can see, I captured this signal using a simple signal recorder function, so the measurement is in the time domain. To match frequency with amplitude, I added a second Y-axis on the right side, represented by a dotted curve.

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4. Wow and Flutter​

Side C includes three additional tracks dedicated to wow & flutter measurements. Tracks 1 and 6 both use a 3150 Hz signal and allow calculation of W&F at the beginning and end of the record for 33 1/3 RPM. Track 2 also uses 3150 Hz but for 45 RPM speed. Audio Precision provides a utility for calculating W&F based on AES 6-2008 (equivalent to IEC 60386).

Here are the results:

Track 1, 33 1/3 RPM – outer edge of the record
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Track 6, 33 1/3 RPM – inner part of the record
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Track 2, 45 RPM
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5. Crosstalk​

Side C also includes two tracks for crosstalk measurement. Both contain a 1 kHz, 0 dB signal in one channel. My results aren’t very good. I need to adjust the turntable. Ideally, I should get a more similar result for both channels.
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Summary​

As you can see, I need to improve my turntable setup. I’ll try to recalibrate it and post updated results afterward.

Please let me know what you think about the procedure. Especially, what would you change, remove, or add.

Thanks!
 
Thanks - very insightful. I bought the two record set from UNITRA, right when it came out. These guys are fantastic. Haven't had a chance to do any measuring - time is short these days...

Cheers
 
I was able to tweak measured crosstalk on my LP120 by adjusting cartridge azimuth by loosening the headshell, rotating slightly (there's a tiny amount of wiggle room) then retightening. Took me a few tries to get best results.
 
Some older arms, I particularly like the Micro Seiki MA 101 - sleeper arm in my opinion... - that let you rotate the headshell. Super handy.

Cheers
 
Nice to see the frequency range of the Unitra Record!

You seem to have a cartridge or tonearm resonance/vibration at 80 and 200hz… ? Bump in the response. Some times tightening something helps. It may be from the record itself..

Put a 1-2mm plastic strip ( credit card cut) between cartridge and headshell , that allows you to adjust azimuth but adjustment if left/right screw. Crosstalk is best to measure with a high pass or band pass filter, if not you will polute the crosstalk with noise/ rumble

W&F , not the best values here , but this is likely record eccentricity more than turntable…. Look at the 3150hz FTT spectrum , that can tell a lot if you see peaks and shoulders. Compare with phone app wf..

What cartridge is used? Your FFT show a peak at 30hz,, very high compared to desired 8-12 hz
 
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I wish manufacturers/reviews had released measurements.

Very interesting set of graphs.
 
Hi, I’d like to share my latest turntable measurement procedure that I’ve been working on. It’s still under development, so I’ll focus more on describing the procedure than on the results or overall quality of the tested turntable.

Any comments or suggestions are more than welcome!

Tested turntable: Audio-Technica AT-LP140XP
Vinyl record: “Turntable Test Vinyl Record – Laboratory Edition,” provided by Unitra LINK
Signal analyzer: RME Fireface UC and Audio Precision APx500 FLEX

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In terms of repeatability and measurement quality, I’m aware that a lot depends on the physical setup of the cartridge and stylus. Even the test vinyl is intended more for setup than for precise measurements. On the other hand, most turntables are delivered partially assembled and only require attaching the headshell and setting the tracking force and anti-skating according to the manual. This provides fairly repeatable conditions and allows evaluation of a specific model at a satisfactory level.

All measurements were conducted without a preamplifier; the turntable was connected directly to the RME interface and grounded to it. The RIAA curve was applied only for frequency response measurements (this will be noted where relevant).

1. RMS and FFT​

Let’s start with the basic RMS value and FFT response for a 1 kHz signal. To capture these parameters, I used side C, track 3, which contains a reference 1 kHz, 0 dB, mono in-phase signal.

As you can see, I should adjust the cartridge.

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View attachment 528180FFT Length: 96000, FFT Window: AP-Equiripple, Averages: 10

2. No-signal measurement​

Side B of the vinyl is dedicated to verify anti-skating, but it also includes a silent track that allows measurement of self-noise. Here are the results.
View attachment 528181
FFT Length: 96000, FFT Window: AP-Equiripple, Averages: 10

3. Frequency response​

Side A includes three test signals with a pilot tone that allow measurement of the cartridge’s frequency response:

Track 1: 20 Hz – 20 kHz, log sweep, −20 dB
Track 2: 20 Hz – 15 kHz, log sweep, −14 dB
Track 3: 20 Hz – 2 kHz, log sweep, 0 dB

Each signal covers a different frequency range and level, which is related to the physical limitations of vinyl records caused by RIAA equalization. Track 3 allows for a good signal-to-noise ratio but has a limited frequency range. Track 1 covers the full hearing range but the signal is reduced by 20 dB, making it very low, especially without a preamp. Track 2 is a sweet spot, taking into account the limitations of the phono cartridge in reproducing high frequencies.

Below are measurements including both raw and equalized (according to the RIAA curve) frequency responses.

Track 1
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Track 2
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Track 3
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Side D includes two additional tracks for frequency response analysis. The first is a logarithmic sweep (20 Hz–15 kHz, −14 dB) with a slow rise, lasting over 100 seconds. It allows for more detailed frequency characteristics and local nuances. The second track has the same parameters but uses a linear frequency sweep.

Below you can find the graph. As you can see, I captured this signal using a simple signal recorder function, so the measurement is in the time domain. To match frequency with amplitude, I added a second Y-axis on the right side, represented by a dotted curve.

View attachment 528185

4. Wow and Flutter​

Side C includes three additional tracks dedicated to wow & flutter measurements. Tracks 1 and 6 both use a 3150 Hz signal and allow calculation of W&F at the beginning and end of the record for 33 1/3 RPM. Track 2 also uses 3150 Hz but for 45 RPM speed. Audio Precision provides a utility for calculating W&F based on AES 6-2008 (equivalent to IEC 60386).

Here are the results:

Track 1, 33 1/3 RPM – outer edge of the record
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Track 6, 33 1/3 RPM – inner part of the record
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Track 2, 45 RPM
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5. Crosstalk​

Side C also includes two tracks for crosstalk measurement. Both contain a 1 kHz, 0 dB signal in one channel. My results aren’t very good. I need to adjust the turntable. Ideally, I should get a more similar result for both channels.
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Summary​

As you can see, I need to improve my turntable setup. I’ll try to recalibrate it and post updated results afterward.

Please let me know what you think about the procedure. Especially, what would you change, remove, or add.

Thanks!
Interesting! Thanks
 
Thanks - very insightful. I bought the two record set from UNITRA, right when it came out. These guys are fantastic. Haven't had a chance to do any measuring - time is short these days...

Cheers
They are. I had a chance to visit their R&D and see that they care about products. Hope you will find the time to do some measurements!
 
I was able to tweak measured crosstalk on my LP120 by adjusting cartridge azimuth by loosening the headshell, rotating slightly (there's a tiny amount of wiggle room) then retightening. Took me a few tries to get best results.
Thanks for advise. I will try to do it together with other adjustment and test the turntable again.
 
I wish manufacturers/reviews had released measurements.
Unitra provides a test report from an AP analyzer for each amplifier. I’m not sure if this also covers their turntables, but it’s very likely.
 
Nice to see the frequency range of the Unitra Record!

You seem to have a cartridge or tonearm resonance/vibration at 80 and 200hz… ? Bump in the response. Some times tightening something helps. It may be from the record itself..

Put a 1-2mm plastic strip ( credit card cut) between cartridge and headshell , that allows you to adjust azimuth but adjustment if left/right screw. Crosstalk is best to measure with a high pass or band pass filter, if not you will polute the crosstalk with noise/ rumble

W&F , not the best values here , but this is likely record eccentricity more than turntable…. Look at the 3150hz FTT spectrum , that can tell a lot if you see peaks and shoulders. Compare with phone app wf..

What cartridge is used? Your FFT show a peak at 30hz,, very high compared to desired 8-12 hz
Thanks for all comments. I will do all of this and report changes.
It terms of cartidge, I used AT-XP3, it's a default model for this turntable.
 
It seems the Unitra sweeps are cut with constant velocity above 1 kHz. Do they mention anything how it is cut?
 
How did you get proper cartridge loading 47k /200pF
Seems like I didn't. This is a quick comparison with and without the preamp. It’s a much flatter response. I'll repeat the measurement with the preamp tomorrow.
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