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TRUTHEAR x Crinacle Zero Red


Looks like they more or less did the same thing to the same frequencies I did to EQ the Zero.
 
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I see @Resolve has some measurements up on headphones.com


Eg. compared to the Harman 2019:
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I see @Resolve has some measurements up on headphones.com


Eg. compared to the Harman 2019:
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Resolve's 5128 looks like Linus Tech Tips new 5128 measurement of new Beats Studio Plus with ANC lol

@crinacle acheived Beats performance. With the Beats you get ANC + DAC + amp built in

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I see @Resolve has some measurements up on headphones.com


Eg. compared to the Harman 2019:
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Also in the link I posted.
 
No it doesn't. Resolve and LTT are using a different target.

Slightly different of course.

Bass is personal preference for everyone anyway - and the difference in treble is slight difference in tilt.
 
I'm not sure about your hearing compared with anyone else and compared to 5128

But I generally only trust up to 10kHz in measurements and then the rest is listen for myself
The spec says it's accurate to 10kHz, so unless you have hearing damage you can trust your subjective hearing more above 10kHz.
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unless you have hearing damage you can trust your hearing more above 10kHz.

Indeed but once we depart from measurement it is all my preference, which will be different to yours and different to @Sharur s etc

So I cannot trust Sharu's comment about treble, as being factual in any way - its just his hearing which includes his personal preference

I refer to his original comments about HF performance, while just looking at the plot and commenting about his prior experiences
 
Indeed but once we depart from measurement it is all my preference, which will be different to yours and different to @Sharur s etc

So I cannot trust Sharu's comment about treble, as being factual in any way - its just his hearing which includes his personal preference

I refer to his original comments about HF performance, while just looking at the plot and commenting about his prior experiences
It really is not as preference based as you might think as long as you are somewhat close to the average for diffuse field to ear canal blocked entrance.
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The difference in treble accuracy was very audible to me, and the measurements reflect that.
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Due to the uncertainties of measurement it's entirely possible that what graphs smooth on the coupler can could sound jagged to a real listener, and vice versa. Especially in the upper treble range.
 
Due to the uncertainties of measurement it's entirely possible that what graphs smooth on the coupler can could sound jagged to a real listener, and vice versa. Especially in the upper treble range.
I've only found this to be the case when EQ'ing something that was already jagged to a smooth response on a coupler but not when the IEM measured smooth to begin with. I think this is where differences in driver quality matter. How can variations measure smooth on both 711 couplers and the 5128 if the 711 is so inaccurate past 8 kHz?
 
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It really is not as preference based as you might think as long as you are somewhat close to the average for diffuse field to ear canal blocked entrance.
If the accuracy of measurements above 10kHz is in question....
 
There is a well know paper from the Harman group, showing that sound quality and price correlate only extremely weakly.

As far as I know, they didn't compare headphones from different price ranges. They compared different equalization settings for the AKG K701, simulating different headphones. So what other result could they get with that methodology? :)
 
I've only found this to be the case when EQ'ing something that was already jagged to a smooth response on a coupler but not when the IEM measured smooth to begin with. I think this is where differences in driver quality matter. How can variations measure smooth on both 711 couplers and the 5128 if the 711 is so inaccurate past 8 kHz?
You should be asking yourself why you prefer any graph shape at all, when standard bodies and manufactures tell you not to trust the results past 10kHz. Subjective impression will be tainted if you go in to it with that level of bias.

As far as the data is concerned things go crazy past 10Khz, population averages, and individual repones. This makes notions of "smooth on the graphs = smooth to the listener" misguided.
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You should be asking yourself why you prefer any graph shape at all, when standard bodies and manufactures tell you not to trust the results past 10kHz. Subjective impression will be tainted if you go in to it with that level of bias.

As far as the data is concerned things go crazy past 10Khz, population averages, and individual repones. This makes notions of "smooth on the graphs = smooth to the listener" misguided.
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This is for acoustic impedance differences at the eardrum. Earphones are not inserted up against one's eardrum. As I said a few posts above, as long as you are somewhat close to the average for diffuse field to ear canal blocked entrance, individual variation is not much of a concern as this is accounted for by your own ear canal and eardrum.
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