Sorry i have a trinnovYou can do that on your SDP-65/75? I know it is available from Trinnov, but when I got my SDP-75 remapping was not included, and I confess I have not looked for it since.
Sorry i have a trinnovYou can do that on your SDP-65/75? I know it is available from Trinnov, but when I got my SDP-75 remapping was not included, and I confess I have not looked for it since.
It appears that the comparably low production cost of hardware Trinnov uses results in lower replacement part / repair and upgrade costs relative to AVPs that retail at similar prices, so it might be an advantage after the warranty has run out.If I decide to buy then the production cost of the hardware is immaterial to me. I'll be paying for the Trinnov magic sauce, which is the software, and I'd be judging that the software is worth the cost, with the support and upgradeability and so forth being a good bonus.
Haven't you thought about system with 9 speakers? For example, 9.2.4 or 9.2.6?Sorry i have a trinnov
That was the intention. The value depends on the user. The Klippel is a tool. For some users the Trinnov also is and it can deliver functionalities you cant get at a lower price point.Good explanation but I expect tongue was in cheek. I can't see how an NFS is worth more than $97,569 myself
I stand corrected.Far be it from me to debate @Frank Dernie on anything car related, but I understand it differently as well.
The S65 was derived from the S85 V10 used only in the M5, not from one of their 'regular' V8 engines.
"Unlike most other BMW M engines, the S65 and S85 are not related to a regular production BMW engine.[1]
The S65 won the International Engine of the Year award for the 3.0 to 4.0 L category in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012.[2]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_S65#:~:text=Derived from the,2012.[2]
I assume your definition of a devices value only concerns the cost of the materials it is made of?Good explanation but I expect tongue was in cheek. I can't see how an NFS is worth more than $97,569 myself
That means you will end up redundant speakers as each encoding standing requires different speaker positions.Those who can afford a Trinnov enabled processor are most likely set up with physical speakers in appropriate locations.
I have ALWAYS thought of adding more of everything=the disease of this addiction.Haven't you thought about system with 9 speakers? For example, 9.2.4 or 9.2.6?
I am curious how much is lost using the 7 vs 9 system, as well as 4 Atmos vs 6 speakers.
I have room 4 meter x 6 meter, your is little bit bigger.
No no, quite the contrary. That's the point isn't it? Raw materials or parts cost could be a small part of an item's value.I assume your definition of a devices value only concerns the cost of the materials it is made of?
I’m confused. Why have you then said “I can't see how an NFS is worth more than $97,569 myself?”No no, quite the contrary. That's the point isn't it? Raw materials or parts cost could be a small part of an item's value.
That's less than $2.5k from list price isn't it? I was making the point that anyone can sit their armchair making arbitrary judgements about price and value. Clearly I didn't make the point well enough . Ignore it.I’m confused. Why have you then said “I can't see how an NFS is worth more than $97,569 myself?”
Yeah I heard the old HDMI board wasn't great. Luckily the current HDMI board is solid. No issues at all and the recently introduced HDMI matrix switching capability is great.I demoed StormAudio but went with Trinnov. The main reason was video switching was slow and glitchy. The UI was excellent indeed but how often does one use it? Once set up I only use my Creston remote. Also, I liked that Trinnov process audio in software.
To counter this I would just point out that type and placement of screen could be a very valid reason for wanting to use the speaker remapping function. For instance, someone may be limited due to their residential location (expensive inner city location with no option to extend) and only have a single room for TV/ Films etc. So they may not want to use a projector onto a sonically transparent screen. Hence they go with an eleventy-five inch OLED or similar, but don't want to have the screen above the height of their floorstanders ( I don't particularly like looking upwards at a TV). So they have to use a typical centre speaker below the screen, and thus want to use the remapping function.The paradox is that the people who need remapping the most (family room/bedroom home theater setups) are the people least likely to be able to afford a Trinnov enabled product. Those who can afford a Trinnov enabled processor are most likely set up with physical speakers in appropriate locations.
Haven't you thought about system with 9 speakers? For example, 9.2.4 or 9.2.6?
I am curious how much is lost using the 7 vs 9 system, as well as 4 Atmos vs 6 speakers.
I have room 4 meter x 6 meter, your is little bit bigger.
Aaah, another one from “value”, “SINAD worse than Topping” brigade. Funny - you mention Trinnov as not being “status” - says more about you, if you consider “status” in any purchase.Not an apt comparison. Luxury automobile cost is related to the production cost. The Trinnov is not. Most people see value in the automobiles you listed above. On the other hand, most people have never heard of Trinnov. It’s not a Veblen/status symbol good. Plus, Trinnov isn’t pushing the state of the art. Not at $17,000.
Not sure where all the defensiveness is coming from.Aaah, another one from “value”, “SINAD worse than Topping” brigade. Funny - you mention Trinnov as not being “status” - says more about you, if you consider “status” in any purchase.
But long story short - this and other places on internet are full of people, knowing exactly why they would NOT spend 25k ( in case of Alt32) on Trinnov and it is OK, as it obviously makes them feel better about themselves.
But you would need to search quite a lot, to find somebody actually regretting buying it. Figure that.
But you are the one trying to recruit others into thinking like you do? You should be happy that you are a self-contained monopoly of your wisdom.Not sure where all the defensiveness is coming from.
It seems that no one commenting in this thread has paid list price for their Trinnov units. I think that speaks volumes as to their perceived value at $17,000, or lack thereof.
I’ll be blunt. I make a $#!+ ton of money compared to most people. If *I* don’t see the value in a Trinnov unit, then it’s not about the absolute price. It’s about the utility. There simply isn’t $17,000 worth of utility there. As far as $40,000? Forget it. Like I said earlier, you could hire a live-in AV tech for that amount of cash.
Good for you, I am happy for all the charities you give to generously. Although I always believed, that the urge to let the whole world know how much money you make, is somehow limited to guys with thick golden chains around their necks.Not sure where all the defensiveness is coming from.
It seems that no one commenting in this thread has paid list price for their Trinnov units. I think that speaks volumes as to their perceived value at $17,000, or lack thereof.
I’ll be blunt. I make a $#!+ ton of money compared to most people. If *I* don’t see the value in a Trinnov unit, then it’s not about the absolute price. It’s about the utility. There simply isn’t $17,000 worth of utility there. As far as $40,000? Forget it. Like I said earlier, you could hire a live-in AV tech for that amount of cash.