Same point, in the signal chain, end to end, something is going to limit it to lower SINAD than 149 dB.It’s the digital output
Same point, in the signal chain, end to end, something is going to limit it to lower SINAD than 149 dB.It’s the digital output
Using the 32 as example, specs show:It’s the digital output
Same point, in the signal chain, end to end, something is going to limit it to lower SINAD than 149 dB.
Okay, understood, but I think we are in agreement that it would be for those reasons (such as chasing...), but not of much real world/practical value, especially there aren't much applications where you would take advantage of the input right to output bypassing most everything in the signal path, and then going from digital output to what? Most people would use such a device with a power amp in the loop, or use headphones lol..Exactly -- but it means that if you are chasing SINAD on an AV product, the Trinnov or Storm Audio paired with any of the 120 dB SINAD DACs here would be great.
As I point out in that same measurements forum post, the analog SINAD of that older generation is only in the 90's and it seems to be fine!
That's over 3 years ago, wonder if they have done the upgrade yet.
They have. I go over the versions in my post. They now ship with an ESS DAC, and UNCONFIRMED, it's the ES9080Q according to AVSForum. I haven't seen photos.
The Trinnov is great just on about everything else, why cheap out on the lousy DAC chip, really puzzling, interesting!
I think soon: arvus hd1/maybe 2 other products on the horizon that can convert (decode atmos/dts-x) hdmi into 16 channel aoip --> use windows pc with say audiolense & convolver.Please show another product that does that and look at the price… (Storm Audio is the closest competitor but it only does 48 kHz Dirac. Even though the difference may not be audible, Trinnov justifiably lives in a higher measured performance tier).
I think soon: arvus hd1/maybe 2 other products on the horizon that can convert (decode atmos/dts-x) hdmi into 16 channel aoip --> use windows pc with say audiolense & convolver.
Comparable performance at the fraction of the cost of a trinnov. I'd say can be more than 80% cheaper. Unfortunately not by definition straightforward to set up.
Tthe Arvus H2-4D is the only product that makes sense for customers who only requires a digital output, such as Genelec owners.I think soon: arvus hd1/maybe 2 other products on the horizon that can convert (decode atmos/dts-x) hdmi into 16 channel aoip --> use windows pc with say audiolense & convolver.
Comparable performance at the fraction of the cost of a trinnov. I'd say can be more than 80% cheaper. Unfortunately not by definition straightforward to set up.
So all you need is a manufacturing process, quality assurance, a staff, employee benefits plan, distributors, dealers, R&D division, customer service, marketing division, etc etc etcI think soon: arvus hd1/maybe 2 other products on the horizon that can convert (decode atmos/dts-x) hdmi into 16 channel aoip --> use windows pc with say audiolense & convolver.
Comparable performance at the fraction of the cost of a trinnov. I'd say can be more than 80% cheaper. Unfortunately not by definition straightforward to set up.
Tthe Arvus H2-4D is the only product that makes sense for customers who only requires a digital output, such as Genelec owners.
Of course, it hasn't be measured yet.
$17,000 for a component is shocking. It doesn’t matter if you can afford it or want it. Could I afford it? Certainly. Do I want it? If it was priced, say, $2000 then yes. But $17,000 is shocking.If you cannot or do not want to afford it then it becomes “shocking”?
I am not sure what your post has to do with my comment that you quoted. Perhaps you meant to respond to someone else?This is where the performance of the Altitude16’s digital outs put everyone to shame.
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The Altitude 32 has 16 channels of digital outs compared to the Altitude 16’s four, but LCR with 145 dB SINAD with flagship level room corrrection on?
Please show another product that does that and look at the price… (Storm Audio is the closest competitor but it only does 48 kHz Dirac. Even though the difference may not be audible, Trinnov justifiably lives in a higher measured performance tier).
I think “shocking” means a lot to different people.$17,000 for a component is shocking. It doesn’t matter if you can afford it or want it. Could I afford it? Certainly. Do I want it? If it was priced, say, $2000 then yes. But $17,000 is shocking.
I interpreted shocking as “expensive *and* measures poorly” as opposed to “expensive but that is what you get for the last % of performance.”I am not sure what your post has to do with my comment that you quoted. Perhaps you meant to respond to someone else?
So you want a Bosendorfer for the price of a Yamaha, at least until you find out how much a Yamaha costs....$17,000 for a component is shocking. It doesn’t matter if you can afford it or want it. Could I afford it? Certainly. Do I want it? If it was priced, say, $2000 then yes. But $17,000 is shocking.
Talking about shocking Is Audiolens really so poorly optimized? Just use CamilaDSP, it’s free and wil handle multichannel in a breeze.This person maxes out their i7-7700 with just stereo playback. (See the video).
It doesn't overwhelm the setup, so if the i7-7700 is 4463 on geekbench we have to go with the i9-14900K.
Talking about shocking Is Audiolens really so poorly optimized? Just use CamilaDSP, it’s free and wil handle multichannel in a breeze.