Triangle Titus EZ spinorama measurements (CTA-2034)

[Ageve]

I found a few other measurements of this speaker. I don't know if it's interesting, but still, here they are.

My measurement: Tweeter axis (not the one used for spin)
Australian Hi-Fi: Gated part of their measurements (Newport Test Labs)***
Stereo.de: Full-range measurement, method unknown to me
Audio.com.pl: Gated part of their measurement, on-axis

The 900Hz peak can be seen in all of them.

Lower level in the Australian Hi-Fi measurement, and there's something going on at 14.7 kHz as well (huge dip).

Audio.com.pl stands out above 3 kHz, and I think I know why. Microphone height was probably a bit off for their measurement. I obviously can't say for sure, but this is how my +10 degree (vertical) looks, compared to their "on axis":

It looks very similar. Simply having the mic a few centimeters too high would cause that uneven tweeter response (narrow vertical directivity).

Another thing worth mentioning is that I "corrected" the stereo.de measurement by adjusting the horizontal axis (when plotting it). With the x-axis starting at 30Hz like the lines would suggest, the whole response is shifted to the left, with -10dB at 30Hz - not accurate for this speaker. By starting at 50Hz instead, it lines up with all the other measurements (bass response, 900Hz peak, and overall tweeter response).

For full transparency, here's the "original" response (30-20000Hz):

TRIANGLE Titus EZ

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audio.com.pl

https://www.polpak.com.pl/files/reviews/TRIANGLE_Titus_EZ_Australian_HiFi_03-2016.pdf

Testergebnisse

www.stereo.de

And finally, here's a measurement of an older Triangle speaker, Esprit Comete Ex:

(30 degree horizontal average)

Triangle Esprit Comete Ex loudspeaker Measurements | Stereophile.com

Sidebar 3: Measurements The Triangle Esprit Comete Ex is significantly more sensitive than the norm, my estimate of its voltage sensitivity coming in at 91dB(B)/2.83V/m. While its impedance magnitude drops below 5 ohms in the lower midrange and mid-treble (fig.1, solid trace), and the electrical...

www.stereophile.com

*** Please ignore the full-range response in the Australian Hi-Fi review. They are merging in-room averaged pink-noise measurements with gated ones, at 1.5 kHz, hiding the 900 Hz peak.

 

[Karmacoma]

And finally, here's a measurement of an older Triangle speaker, Esprit Comete Ex:

(30 degree horizontal average)
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Gosh, I almost bought a pair a few years back. It was over 1000€, I'm glad i didn't, it looks awful! I bought some polks instead which measure way way better.

 

[xanalog]

Thank you @Ageve for your additional diligence to stay active on the thread.

I have a question that is not even a nit but something does not make sense.
Almost all of your frequency scans (first post's and remainder) all show a small discontinuity at 5kHz (just scant few -dB).
Is this some kind of an instrumentational glitch?

 

[Ageve]

The 5 kHz discontinuity is most likely caused by a woofer breakup (interfering with the tweeter on-axis, causing cancellation). You can see it in the Australian Hi-Fi measurement as well, but smoothed.

With, and without 1/12 smoothing applied in REW:

Please note: Tweeter axis. Not the measurement used for the spin.

Bass near-field:

Most of the graphs are normalized to on-axis.

Without normalization:

edit: Here's a near-field comparison between my measurements and Australian Hi-Fi, for those who might find it interesting. Their graph ends at 2 kHz.

Port:

Woofer:

 

[Billy Budapest]

I have an earlier (much earlier) version of this speaker, the Titus 202. I don’t believe it suffers from the 800-1kHz spike, as I do not hear anything odd in that upper midrange region, but the treble is similar to how you describe.

 

[ivayvr]

Titus EZ was my last passive speaker ever. I still have a very fond memories about it. I ordered it from Son Video in France when they were on clearance at some ridiculously low price. Even with shipping cost (less VAT) they were a steal. I never had a speaker with such splendid micro dynamics and overall pleasing sound.
We used to have carpets in the apartment we are renting and they were replaced by vinyl flooring throughout the building. The change made them almost useless. They started sounding strident, shouty, tiring....I replaced them by Adam A5X and that is how my powered speaker journey started.
I am not even sure if I was aware then that ASR existed...

 

[Jole]

The 5 kHz discontinuity is most likely caused by a woofer breakup (interfering with the tweeter on-axis, causing cancellation). You can see it in the Australian Hi-Fi measurement as well, but smoothed.

With, and without 1/12 smoothing applied in REW:

Please note: Tweeter axis. Not the measurement used for the spin.

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Bass near-field:
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Most of the graphs are normalized to on-axis.

Without normalization:

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edit: Here's a near-field comparison between my measurements and Australian Hi-Fi, for those who might find it interesting. Their graph ends at 2 kHz.

Port:
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Woofer:
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First thank you od detailed examination. Dillema that stay is with eq correction that Maiky76 suggested, exactly few of them, and sub where we are with this speaker sound for living room not desktop. It looks very nice and people could conclude it's not worth to buy after this reading.

 

[Jole]

I'm not entering in various preferring just could this distortions.. peaks be corrected by peq and with certain sub fix small bass driver efficency of this kind of speakers...bookshelf.

 

[Billy Budapest]

Thanks!

I did a quick measurement in my living room, with EQ Score applied. Ignore < 400 Hz (old port+woofer measurement used).

The small difference at 5 kHz is probably just slightly different tweeter height. There's a couple of dB variation 30 mm over/under tweeter axis, and it was probably a bit off compared to the spin.

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I'm listening to it now. Female vocals are much more enjoyable without the 900 Hz peak. The sound is a lot nicer overall, but still quite localized (small soundstage/halo around the speaker). There's also still a hint of the "trumpet" sound (could be the distortion, perhaps?).

EQs nicely. Still might sound a bit bright.