Imo an amt tweeter sounds great if a waveguide is used.
Maybe it's best to keep your eye open for a nice sale.
Just an example Elipson Prestige Facet 24F for 1320 euro.
Don't think they will ship it to Sweden for free though.
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indeed! I can't find any information about these speakers but they look interesting, nice sale too. I am trying to find graphs/measurements but not finding much.
At around that price, you should be able to pick up a set of Anthony Gallo Reference 3.1/3.2/3.5
Circa 10 years old & discontinued - new they were quite a bargain in terms of value for money.
Used they are even more of a deal...
The current Anthony Gallo Strada speakers are the top end of the Reference 3.2/3.5, and the TR3 is basically the bottom end of the same speaker - reconfigured in a sub/satellite setup. (which might be a bit too expensive for you... but may have its advantages)
From the same family, used, The Reference AV were specifically designed for wall mounting - they go down to around 40Hz, and require a sub for full range - but again, the same tech and quality - may or may not suit your space/setup better.
These never sold very widely in Australia (where I am), and I came across them while walking past a showroom... what I heard as I walked past, sounded a heck of a lot like a well set up set of Electrostatics .... so I poked my head in, ended up buying the demo setup.
It replaced my all electrostatic setup, which was suffering from WAF.... and has been with me now for 10 years+
whoa those gallo speakers look a little too crazy for my liking... I'll have to do some reading though. don't think the WAF will work out and personally not a fan, too out there looking!
thank you though.
ahh I wish, even the F35 end up over 2500 euro here... I can't find any used pairs either.
I will always recommend the Quad Electrostatics - if you have the space for them (and they do not cause WAF issues)
The vintage ESL63's - are still world class, the ESL-988 was the later version of it, and the current ESL-2812 are well nigh identical
Not a monster in the bass - what bass they have is superb - go down to around 37Hz (-6db)
The ESL 989 and current ESL2912 add bass panels so they reach further down - still not a bass heads speaker (add subs for that!) - but stunning speakers
I ran the ESL989 for circa 7 years... - go down to around 35Hz (-6db) - but there is "more" of it
Difficulty - these are very very low distortion, very high detail, and once you get used to them, it is very hard to get subs that truly match them without sounding slightly "disconnected". (some people do not notice this, for me it was a big deal, this is also why I never took to the Martin Logan Hybrid ELS's with standard woofers.... the bass never sounded like it quite matched the mids and highs - lots of people love these...)
They are not hard to drive, but will absolutely show up whatever is plugged into them - a high quality 100W amp is more than ample - Quads own stereo amps are around 140W...
Quad ESL's and a really really good, low distortion, sub; could well be the perfect system.... (for me... but WAF)
I actually heard some quad ESL many years ago, super nice sounding! but they're really hard to find here, and might be too wide for my room unfortunately.
use the money get some PA reproduced sounding speakers for maybe same amount or less . ex used cinema JBL professional .
many on ebay cheap . i wouldn't touch rubbish hi-fi speakers with touching them with a barge pole .
type in ebay , JBL cinema speakers , here is a link instead to ebay usa .
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^ look gander around ^ i can see at least dozens worth buying and you won't need any one of these rubbish hi-fi speakers laying on a floor . get some PA cinema raise them off the floor and aim the HF horn downward little and angle the horn toe-in so it beams best reproduced sound , after it has been EQ-tuned for the room and you just saved fortune or depending as some sellers overprice other honest sellers list realistic prices and look for good 100% feedback .
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full listing for classic JBL 2360A horn look for best prices for budget believe me you'll find one . if you think i'm being snobby ? i ain't . i'm a common person . rich snobs well they have no automatic common sense and would spend tens of thousands on single pair of rubbish hi-fi speakers .
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anyway PA speakers output far more dynamic range than some rubbish hi-fi speakers that look like tarts wearing too much make-up at hi-fi shop .
PA speakers are often black and often not really seen at night club and certainly not at cinema where hidden being the at-screen for double blind listening .
my room is smaller than you're room . so what is you're excuse for not getting JBL professional PA reproduction speakers ?
well, no excuse but it seems like it'd be a lot of work to even get a pair over here in northern Europe... and I'm trying to simplify my setup
I'll have to do some reading. they look a bit large though.
these are absolutely beautiful! do you know if there are any measurements done on these anywhere? I can't seem to find anything. love the looks of these though, might be the most beautiful speakers I've ever seen!
Could try the Monitor Audio Silver series. Can definitely get the 300 size towers and can almost get the 500 size towers with that budget. Plenty of bass although I will concede that the Silvers I've demo'd have a bit too much port noise that clouds the bass accuracy. They provide foam plugs but that weakens the bass too much. I wish they would design a flared slot like Elac or the tractrix cone and flat slot on the Fyne's. Their new CCAM tweeter is nice though, listening to it right now on the Silver 100 7G.
actually seeing a bunch of Monitor Audio discounted here... will have to do some reading. the one pair of bookshelf I heard wasn't my thing, bit too forward sounding if I remember correctly... but not terrible.
get some bookshelf and a couple of 15" subs. it's gunna be awesome, but maybe not audiophile.
that might actually be too much bass / too deep for my preference, living in an apartment and all...
I wonder if I didn't make it super clear which bass level I am hoping for - I just want to be able to hear around 40hz, not necessarily hit hard and be +/- 0dB around 40Hz... there's both a lower and upper limit here, which might make it difficult...
And Europeans pay a lot more for emotiva and minidsp.
Average vat is 21%.
yep, 25% here... thankfully a lot of audio lovers in Scandinavia, so products are available... even if a bit more expensive.
Agreed but Mvchies doesn't want sub(s). Let alone 15".
I believe he's looking for good floorstanders with 40hz or below.
well, 45Hz -6dB would also be fine - but yes, trying to get a simple setup with minimal fussing and not many parts.
thank you for the help again everyone, sorry for disappearing- stupid real life got in the way!
I did some reading today and was thinking of Arendal 1961 ... they're really small which would be easy to use, and the measurements I've seen look fantastic...
they're a little more than I budgeted for, but they seem great in every way - great looks, nice horizontal dispersion, nice frequency response...
and they allow for 60 day try & buy!
unless someone has any objections... I think once I get back home in August I'll put in an order...
sorry if I didn't make everyone feel heard and for jumping on something completely different here...
not intentional! just so much to consider... it is a little overwhelming.