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Torn: Focal Elegia vs. Dan Clark Audio Aeon Closed X/RT

Shadez

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so is it worth me waiting to end March as in UK and that's assuming next batch isn't delayed or would RT be just as a good a bet?
 

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I can't be of much help, but I recently had the same dilemma between Focal Radiance or Elegia, DCA Aeon 2 Noire, Audeze LCD2C.

Maybe you want to consider the Radiance too?

I went for the DCA Aeon 2 Noire based on hours of research and reading from ASR, SBAF, HeadFi, YouTube, Reddit, tons of "trustworthy" headphones sites reviews and whatever other forum I could find from around the globe. Different audiences and some even a bit toxic. I also contacted a headphone dealership (best in country) and asked for advice as I'm sourcing from them.

So for me it comes down to your use and personal preferences.

It's more of a Planar vs DD, about quality and portability. Then about the sound signature you prefer.

Is it for travel? Aeons.
Is it for the office? Aeons or maybe Focal depending on office arrangements and noise.
Drive-ability? Focals.
"Macrodynamics" and the slam feel? Focals
Build quality? Aeons
Customer service? Aeons
Looks? Debatable, the Radiance are gorgeous.
Comfort: tie? They're both very comfortable.

I'd have gone 100% for the Radiance if it didn't leak noise and and it were somehow more compact for transporting them. Also while the headphones are beautiful I find the Bentley logo tacky.

The crowd is a bit split between these two (Aeon 2 Closed/X and Elegia), seems to be like comparing apples to oranges, iOS to Android, etc.

Now if you would consider the Aeon 2 Noire, which as to my understanding has very slight changes compared to the Aeon 2 Closed/X, the Noire is the favorite across-the-boards. Seems it isn't as "dry" as before and with some EQ relieves the problem mainly in the lack of punch/slam.

Personally some EQ has always fixed the lack of slam/punch on planars and electrostatic to me. I hear people constantly talking bad about Stax lack of bass and rumble. I'm using the cheapo the L300 with L700 pads on the tiniest Stax amp (252S). While I can't go crazy loud or go nuts with the EQ on the low end but let me tell you the sound IS majestic with the right EQ. The bass can be VERY satisfying with the right EQ and you might even feel a tingling rumble in your ears. I consider myself a bit of a basshead. I have the Stax with +12dB @ 59 Hz, so there's that.
But as always, it's hard to beat DD in that department.
 
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Shadez

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I can't be of much help, but I recently had the same dilemma between Focal Radiance or Elegia, DCA Aeon 2 Noire, Audeze LCD2C.

Maybe you want to consider the Radiance too?

I went for the DCA Aeon 2 Noire based on hours of research and reading from ASR, SBAF, HeadFi, YouTube, Reddit, tons of "trustworthy" headphones sites reviews and whatever other forum I could find from around the globe. Different audiences and some even a bit toxic. I also contacted a headphone dealership (best in country) and asked for advice as I'm sourcing from them.

So for me it comes down to your use and personal preferences.

It's more of a Planar vs DD, about quality and portability. Then about the sound signature you prefer.

Is it for travel? Aeons.
Is it for the office? Aeons or maybe Focal depending on office arrangements and noise.
Drive-ability? Focals.
"Macrodynamics" and the slam feel? Focals
Build quality? Aeons
Customer service? Aeons
Looks? Debatable, the Radiance are gorgeous.
Comfort: tie? They're both very comfortable.

I'd have gone 100% for the Radiance if it didn't leak noise and and it were somehow more compact for transporting them. Also while the headphones are beautiful I find the Bentley logo tacky.

The crowd is a bit split between these two (Aeon 2 Closed/X and Elegia), seems to be like comparing apples to oranges, iOS to Android, etc.

Now if you would consider the Aeon 2 Noire, which as to my understanding has very slight changes compared to the Aeon 2 Closed/X, the Noire is the favorite across-the-boards. Seems it isn't as "dry" as before and with some EQ relieves the problem mainly in the lack of punch/slam.

Personally some EQ has always fixed the lack of slam/punch on planars and electrostatic to me. I hear people constantly talking bad about Stax lack of bass and rumble. I'm using the cheapo the L300 with L700 pads on the tiniest Stax amp (252S). While I can't go crazy loud or go nuts with the EQ on the low end but let me tell you the sound IS majestic with the right EQ. The bass can be VERY satisfying with the right EQ and you might even feel a tingling rumble in your ears. I consider myself a bit of a basshead. I have the Stax with +12dB @ 59 Hz, so there's that.
But as always, it's hard to beat DD in that department.
what I am after is a headphone to use with minimal sound leakage, mainly around my house wn listening to any of my open backs isn't possible due to genre, time od the day etc. I like low bass and subbass but quality is as important as quantity and appropriate in terms of quantity as well. I don't suffer at all from trebble sensitivity, often I may be using these while not critical listening although I often late in evenings may get the chance to kick back and chill out to my music. Speaking of music I have broad musical tastes and it really depends on my mood or is flicking though or listening to discovery selections I may shoot off on a tangent I didn't intend to at first. The music I listen to by far their least is chamber and classical music. I am quite new into this search and have a small number of headphones so far, some plannar and some DD. I like natural soundstage and positioning, musical but not overly romantic tonality
 

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what I am after is a headphone to use with minimal sound leakage, mainly around my house wn listening to any of my open backs isn't possible due to genre, time od the day etc. I like low bass and subbass but quality is as important as quantity and appropriate in terms of quantity as well. I don't suffer at all from trebble sensitivity, often I may be using these while not critical listening although I often late in evenings may get the chance to kick back and chill out to my music. Speaking of music I have broad musical tastes and it really depends on my mood or is flicking though or listening to discovery selections I may shoot off on a tangent I didn't intend to at first. The music I listen to by far their least is chamber and classical music. I am quite new into this search and have a small number of headphones so far, some plannar and some DD. I like natural soundstage and positioning, musical but not overly romantic tonality
Sounds like the Aeon series headphones are for you then. They don’t leak much at all, and have great bass extension and detail. Soundstage is quite nice on the RT, but the Aeon 2 and Aeon Noire supposedly do it better
 

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I love my Aeon 2 Closed with the perforated pads for extra bass. It requires a bass shelf to meet the Harman target. You can hear the bass all the way down to 10 or 20 Hz, but it doesn't have the sub-bass slam of even an open back LCD. Ultimately I had to buy an LCD-XC and EQ it to fix it's flaws, but it has greater sub-bass slam which is the most important factor for me.

I would suggest looking at the Aeon 2 Noire as it's tuned to the Harman target out of the box and should have better sub-bass without EQ.
 
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Here he talks about the sub-bass slam of the Aeon 2 Noire.
 

Shadez

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Congrats! I have both, and I think they're both fine headphones.

My HiBy R5 Saber works well with the Closed X in single ended mode even with a little bass boost. My guess is the Hip DAC would have been fine.
Agree the hipdac in balanced output is slightly more powerful in terms of wattage and voltage than ifi‘s standard zen dac.

i need some closed backs for round house when others about so I went for a pair of 1more triple drivers at a very good time limited deal on Amazon UK plus 20% of due to a slight imperfection in the right ear pad that I fixed with leather glue, so £73 instead of between £150-210. But now I want a closed back for more reference like listening rather than background. I am looking at both of these and I think I will go for the closed X, they keep getting called DRY by reviewers and I have to admit as only 13 months into this hobby I don’t have experience of what that actually means. I am not longer a muddied bass head but I love bass in quality and sub bass, sound stage as long as not claustrophobic is something I don’t obses over, I’d rather accuracy of placement and separation be the focus. I have the hd6xx which don’t blow me away but I enjoy them, I have the Sundaras 2020 which are like my soul mates and the Deva Pro as another around the house closed back. Couple of others as well, I think the controlled detailed presentation will suit me, I do not like overly warm timbers so some ifi products I find too warm for instance, if I could afford it I would get both, maybe I should just get the drop closed x and then order the focals from Amazon and return the ones I prefer or maybe I will sell a kidney and try to keep both. My concern is having many mid fi headphones and never being able to afford the higher end headphone which may blow my mind, although not like 10K, even if win the lottery I’d rather get a great hi end pair and give the rest to charity
 
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Agree the hipdac in balanced output is slightly more powerful in terms of wattage and voltage than ifi‘s standard zen dac.

i need some closed backs for round house when others about so I went for a pair of 1more triple drivers at a very good time limited deal on Amazon UK plus 20% of due to a slight imperfection in the right ear pad that I fixed with leather glue, so £73 instead of between £150-210. But now I want a closed back for more reference like listening rather than background. I am looking at both of these and I think I will go for the closed X, they keep getting called DRY by reviewers and I have to admit as only 13 months into this hobby I don’t have experience of what that actually means. I am not longer a muddied bass head but I love bass in quality and sub bass, sound stage as long as not claustrophobic is something I don’t obses over, I’d rather accuracy of placement and separation be the focus. I have the hd6xx which don’t blow me away but I enjoy them, I have the Sundaras 2020 which are like my soul mates and the Deva Pro as another around the house closed back. Couple of others as well, I think the controlled detailed presentation will suit me, I do not like overly warm timbers so some ifi products I find too warm for instance, if I could afford it I would get both, maybe I should just get the drop closed x and then order the focals from Amazon and return the ones I prefer or maybe I will sell a kidney and try to keep both. My concern is having many mid fi headphones and never being able to afford the higher end headphone which may blow my mind.
 
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