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Topping Pre90 Review (preamplifier)

Hi all. Would the pre90 make a good preamp for the Buchardt A500’s? Other options I am looking at is the Schiit Freya S. Thanks!
 
Hi all. Would the pre90 make a good preamp for the Buchardt A500’s? Other options I am looking at is the Schiit Freya S. Thanks!
Either one should be fine. Quote direct from Buchardt A500's product web page.
" They can be used wired with any preamp or streamer of your choice"
If by the off chance you experience some difficulties (which I doubt) contact them directly.
 
Hi all. Would the pre90 make a good preamp for the Buchardt A500’s? Other options I am looking at is the Schiit Freya S. Thanks!
The more important thing to consider is perhaps the matching of the Pre90 with your source due to the low input impedance of the Pre90.
 
Thanks for the input. I need to look into the subject of impedance matching. Any good resources that you recommend?
 
I want to use this preamp as an rca to xlr converter. To achieve unity gain in my use case should the gain setting be at 0db or -6db?
 
I want to use this preamp as an rca to xlr converter. To achieve unity gain in my use case should the gain setting be at 0db or -6db?
If you set it up as XLR-Out only, set it at 0dB. If you set it for RCA+XLR-Out, set it at -6dB.
 
I’m about to pull the trigger on a Pre90. My setup is as follows: Macbook (Audirvana) > RME ADI 2FS Pro - 2x Ncore400 mono blocks.

Currently I use ADC for my vinyl source. Would the Pre90 improve anything in this setup?
 
I’m about to pull the trigger on a Pre90. My setup is as follows: Macbook (Audirvana) > RME ADI 2FS Pro - 2x Ncore400 mono blocks.

Currently I use ADC for my vinyl source. Would the Pre90 improve anything in this setup?
You'd lose EQ on your turntable output, which would be a shame. I have an adi black edition in a similar set up to you and wouldn't go back to a more traditional preamp set up unless I had 2 analogue sources.
 
I’ll probably just stick to my RME then. Was just thinking to go pure analog when listening to vinyl through the Pre90. But I guess I’ll just save the money for more music :)
 
Is there a problem with denafrips ares ii? Would like to test it.

Yes, Denafrips Ares II has rather high output impedance for a DAC and Pre90 has rather low input impedance for a preamp. End result will be higher distortion from the Denafrips and level attenuation. To me a preamp should allow you drive more difficult loads (like say a Purifi amp with no input buffer) but the Pre90 doesn't really do that because it is a somewhat difficult load itself.

Michael
 
Yes, Denafrips Ares II has rather high output impedance for a DAC and Pre90 has rather low input impedance for a preamp. End result will be higher distortion from the Denafrips and level attenuation. To me a preamp should allow you drive more difficult loads (like say a Purifi amp with no input buffer) but the Pre90 doesn't really do that because it is a somewhat difficult load itself.

Michael
I have a audiophonics purifi amp, is that s bad combination?
 
I have a audiophonics purifi amp, is that s bad combination?

The Pre90 will drive the Purifi fine (with or without the input buffer) but the Denafrips will not drive the Pre90 well and will have the issues discussed early in this thread (higher distortion, attenuated output, frequency response deviation). If you are using the Denafrips with the Purifi with no preamp in between that will also be fine but you must avoid the "bypass" gain setting but this is fine because you will want to use at least the 20 dB gain setting to drive the amp to full power.

I assume your main motivation for using a preamp is to add volume control as the Denafrips does not have it?

Michael
 
The Pre90 will drive the Purifi fine (with or without the input buffer) but the Denafrips will not drive the Pre90 well and will have the issues discussed early in this thread (higher distortion, attenuated output, frequency response deviation). If you are using the Denafrips with the Purifi with no preamp in between that will also be fine but you must avoid the "bypass" gain setting but this is fine because you will want to use at least the 20 dB gain setting to drive the amp to full power.

I assume your main motivation for using a preamp is to add volume control as the Denafrips does not have it?

Michael
Yes that's correct. Need to adjust the volume. Will look for another DAC then if they're not a good match.
 
Yes that's correct. Need to adjust the volume. Will look for another DAC then if they're not a good match.

IMO I would get a low noise DAC with 4 V output and digital volume control. The 20 dB gain setting on the Purifi will give you excellent system noise performance because the Purifi itself is very low noise and 20 dB gain will not excessively amplify noise from the DAC. The 20 dB gain setting is using an input buffer which will make it easy for pretty much any DAC to drive.

Michael
 
Hi, I have the same setup: Denafrips Ares II, VTV Purifi with the EVAL1 input buffer and the Topping Pre90 and I would like to know the best way to connect them. If I use the RCA outs on the DAC instead of the XLR does it fix the impedance issue? If not, what should I do? Thanks!!!
 
The Pre90 is said to have peak performance between 4 and 8 volts of output. I wonder what this translates to in volume. I use XLR out only and can go up to +16 on the volume knob.My DAC outputs approx 4 volts. On normal listening I usually see -20 in the display. How much voltage output might that be?
 
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THD, THD+N and Noise were measured at each volume position of Pre90.
I referred to this post. Check the details. I have no English ability.
Thank you @MC_RME

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