Topping Mini 300 Amplifier Review

[Sokel]

Thanks guys, the thing I didn't understand is the "bridge tied load". This board shorts the amplifier's output lines together causing the amplifier to sense a fault. The board uses a uPC1237 chip to sense DC and control the relays. I may add another board, that may solve the problem, I'll have to think about it. Or find a circuit that works with this type of amp. Or determine if it's even necessary.

Dave TR3A, could you explain why modern amps don't deliver DC to the output when a transistor shorts?

My interest in using the speaker protector comes from previous experience when a shorted output transistor fried one of my rare speakers, so I think more layers of protection are better, as long as they don't introduce their own routes to failure.

Rule of thumb:
Do never, EVER connect the output of a balanced (like bridged ones) class D OUTPUT amp to the ground.

That, should come with flashy, red warning on their cover.

 

[gasolin75]

according to reviews The loxjie A30 isn't as good a s the Topping mini 300

I would say sonically it's as good or better than wiim vibelink (clarity in the midrange) thats how good it is

 

[RandomEar]

according to reviews The loxjie A30 isn't as good a s the Topping mini 300

I would say sonically it's as good or better than wiim vibelink (clarity in the midrange) thats how good it is

I'ts unlikely that there will be an audible difference as long as you use the digital input on the Loxjie. "Clarity in the midrange" isn't a thing with amps. Outside of tube amps and some obscure custom designs, they all have a flat frequency response and mostly differ in peak power, noise and distortion. With the distortion levels below -80 dB that we're talking about here, anybody will be hard pressed to pass a blind listening test even under the most favourable conditions.

 

[gasolin75]

ha ha the topping mini 300 has a higher clarity in the mids than most amps

 

[RandomEar]

ha ha the topping mini 300 has a higher clarity in the mids than most amps

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[Tell]

Thanks for the clarification and sorry for the confusion. Shouldn't trust Google AI .
I really liked my loxjie A30 with Infineon chip und hoped to get another good measuring amp with Infineon chip.
But if it has a TI chip anyway, I could spent the extra 80€ to get a proper 3e Audio A5.

Or just get whatever amplifier that has the inputs, outputs and power you need. And looking at the objective performance between the Mini 300 and A5 there's not really much difference at all.
Personally I went for the Mini 300 and is really happy with it! Well as happy as you can be over an amplifier, I mean all it does is to amplify a low voltage signal which ain't that special at all tbh.

 

[gasolin75]

It does sound very good, better than most full sized amps for 300 euros

Pleanty of power, controlled,neuatral balanced bass, open midrange and a little more sparkle to the highs, it does it without any noticeabel distortion and harshness, whats not top like

No or extreme low pop sound on/off, what wonders me is that psu is on 24/7, bad thing for power consumption ? The psu don't get hot at all so heat is no problem The amp how ever get's warm but hasn't shut down for me knock on wood or as we say in denmark 7-9-13

Perfect system they should make a dac/streamer for under or over the amp (placement) with balanced out like a fosi audio S3 Balanced streamer,preamp,dac for just under 300 euros but make it with a touch screen + room correction + eq for fine tuning and make it cheaper

Just make it without any cable and remote so it's as inexpensive as possible (but with a streaming app) so people can get get what ever cable and accessories that want without paying for it, if they don't need it or want better quality than stock quality

 

[Boredcarrot]

I've had my Mini 300 for a couple of weeks now. Bought it to replace my PA5II plus that was in my desktop setup and is now in my main lounge room system. I haven't listened to them side by side, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to hear any difference so I haven't bothered. I just love these two little amps, they sound so clear and plenty of power for my needs.

 

[gasolin75]

balanced in vs analog (se) in ?

Anyone who did it so i can read about before i try it myself ?

 

[staticV3]

balanced in vs analog (se) in ?

Anyone who did it so i can read about before i try it myself ?

Literally the first two graphs in Amir's review:



RCA has 6dB more gain and slightly more hiss.

 

[gasolin75]

Literally the first two graphs in Amir's review:

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RCA has 6dB more gain and slightly more hiss.

Sound quality !

 

[staticV3]

Sound quality !

XLR will be more resilient to mains hum and EMI.

Besides that, why would there be a difference in sound quality?

Both inputs feed the same Amplifier chip, the RCA input only goes through an FDA first. No these do not affect sound quality.

 

[gasolin75]

why xlr to trs ?

Ask Tharbamar (he mentioned it), like on a loxjie a30 the digital in sounds better than then analog in (i guess you haven't tried it)

 

[harkpabst]

why xlr to trs ?

Ask Tharbamar (he mentioned it), like on a loxjie a30 the digital in sounds better than then analog in (i guess you haven't tried it)

There's no digital input on the Mini 300 so there's nothing to compare here. Do you currently have a device with balanced outputs to connect the Mini 300 to?

If anybody here claims that RCA "sounds" better than TRS here on this forum, would you believe him instead of Tharbamar? In fact, channel's like Tharbamar's are one of the reasons why ASR came into existence.

 

[gasolin75]

There is a digital in on the loxjie a30

Yes i have a device with balanced out

 

[harkpabst]

There is a digital in on the loxjie a30

Yes, but there's no point in arguing that the balanced input on a one amp might or might not sound better than than the single ended input because on some other totally different amp the digital input might or might not sound better than the analogue input (regardless of the DAC used to feed the analogue input). There's absolutely no relationship.

why xlr to trs ?

Most pre-amps in home Hi-Fi have XLR outputs if they have balanced outputs at all. @staticV3 used XLR synonymously with balanced connection.

Yes i have device with balanced out

If your device has balanced TRS outputs then you don't need XLR to TRS cables but TRS to TRS cables,of course.

There's no sound difference between TRS and XLR on either end of the cable, as long as it's a proper balanced cable.

 

[gasolin75]

Yes, but there's no point in arguing that the balanced input on a one amp might or might not sound better than than the single ended input because on some other totally different amp the digital input might or might not sound better than the analogue input (regardless of the DAC used to feed the analogue input). There's absolutely no relationship.

Not me who say it, tharbamar on youtube say it (watch the video), not me, i ask for experience before i might try it

If your device has balanced TRS outputs then you don't need XLR to TRS cables but TRS to TRS cables,of course.

who say i don't use trs to trs cable ? I can use xlr to trs if i have such a cable

 

[harkpabst]

Not me who say it, tharbamar on youtube say it (watch the video), not me, i ask for experience before i might try it

I wasted 12 minutes of my precious lifetime watching his video (at 1.25x speed) and he didn't mention the Loxjie A30 or any other amplifier with a digital input even once. It was you who mentioned it for reason I don't know.

who say i don't use trs to trs cable ?

I don't know. Not me. Neither did @staticV3.

I can use xlr to trs if i have such a cable

Simply use the cables you need. If your device has TRS outputs, use a TRS to TRS cable. If it has XLR outputs, use an XLR to TRS cable.

It was you who's been asking:

why xlr to trs ?

But nobody has been talking about XLR to TRS cables before. If you need them, use them.

A balanced TRS to TRS cable will cost you less then 9 € per piece, so less than 18 € for the pair. Isn't it worth trying this out for yourself?

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[gasolin75]

I didn't say he mentioned the loxjie a30

HE mentioned that the balanced in sounds more open or if you will interpret it that way, sounds better using the balance in

Again i never mentioned i don't have balanced cables

 

[harkpabst]

I didn't say you said that he said anything about the A30. I just said that you mentioning the A30 in your comparison was pointless.

Ask Tharbamar (he mentioned it), like on a loxjie a30 the digital in sounds better than then analog in (i guess you haven't tried it)

Even if the digital in sounds better on the A30 (I don't know) that means nothing regarding the analog balanced input and the analog single ended input on the Mini300.

Again i never mentioned i don't have balanced cables

If you have them, then why don't you simply use them and tell us about what difference you experienced instead of asking others for their experience first?