- Joined
- Aug 3, 2019
- Messages
- 1,627
- Likes
- 2,491
Apparently.
-
Welcome to ASR. There are many reviews of audio hardware and expert members to help answer your questions. Click here to have your audio equipment measured for free!
Obviously the price would be a lot higher.Don't you think 'monster' speakers would require equally monster overseas freight charges?
Neodymium or otherwise.
I'm interested in what they would come up with from a design exercise POV, I'm not personally in the market for new speakers.
I am guessing, but Topping is likely re-sealing the speaker cabinets before re-listing.
- Joined
- Aug 3, 2019
- Messages
- 1,627
- Likes
- 2,491
Better late than never, right?
Absolutely right. Again, I don't know, but I suspect that Topping are good at 'lessons learned' and 'preventing recurrence'. If so, we should see even great improvements and diversity with their speakers.Better late than never, right?
incorrect
try again
They were just $400 including delivery to my country, but the listing disappeared. Hopefully Topping is aware of air leak issues and they are fixing production.
kinda curious how they compare at low end with the Kali lp-unf 4 inches , which have 55hz F3 with very low distortion . i think they are direct competitors and the Kalis is a hard one to beat.
kinda curious how they compare at low end with the Kali lp-unf 4 inches , which have 55hz F3 with very low distortion . i think they are direct competitors and the Kalis is a hard one to beat.
Last edited:
Hifihedgehog
Member
- Joined
- Dec 13, 2023
- Messages
- 76
- Likes
- 168
Welp, thanks to all of you early adopters for your beta testing efforts, at least.
Robbo99999
Master Contributor
Seems quite expensive for a reasonable small speaker given it's cost per speaker.
Topping definitely seem to be on the right track though!
With the odd form factor, that distortion figures (absent from the website, by the way), poor tone controls, no standard way to mount them, no grille, no ground wire,... 900 bucks is not competitive, at all.
If you order from taobao, they are approx USD167 each. Not sure about freight or import tax though.
@JohnYang1997 sent me the data from their own measurement. The data is very similar to the one from @Nuyes.
This is good and yield a high preference score of 5.9 (and 8.1 with a perfect subwoofer).
If you add an eq to it the scores goes up to 6.6 (and 8.8 with a perfect subwoofer and an eq).
Code:
EQ for Topping MA4 computed from Vendors-Topping data
Preference Score 5.88 with EQ 6.76
Generated from https://github.com/pierreaubert/spinorama/generate_peqs.py v0.28
Dated: 2025-08-10-15:02:13
Preamp: -1.3 dB
Filter 1: ON PK Fc 60 Hz Gain +1.58 dB Q 0.48
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 155 Hz Gain -1.53 dB Q 1.25
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 270 Hz Gain -1.10 dB Q 0.54
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 579 Hz Gain +1.75 dB Q 2.07
Filter 5: ON PK Fc 714 Hz Gain -2.05 dB Q 2.22
Filter 6: ON PK Fc 1532 Hz Gain +0.85 dB Q 0.59
Filter 7: ON PK Fc 3177 Hz Gain -1.69 dB Q 1.83You can visualise the eq and see that the tonal balance does not change but the ER and SP curves are flatter!
Note: If you look at the spinorama.org you can configure the graph by clicking on the legend and add/remove the data you want.
Tovarich007
Senior Member
- Joined
- Jan 31, 2021
- Messages
- 400
- Likes
- 585
900 $ (maybe a little less in EU), that's not cheap at all for a small budget monitor and not worth the price : distorsion figures are not that bad but not extraordinary, bass response si Ok for the size but not extraordinary too (not better than some competitors), its deep size is idosyncrasic (not easy to set on a bookshelf or a desk), no EQ integrated, and built quality not top at all (the leakage and maybe other things)
You can have more for less with, for instance, the Kali In Series and for approximately the same price you can go for the Neumann KH 80, much better performance, flexibility, reliability and client service, brand reputation, made in EU. The choice is easy.
This Topping may be competitive in the chinese market where price is divided by more than twice, but not in North America or Europe.
It's a not only to blame on tariffs ; the fact is Topping has entered the monitor market halfway, this first attempt is at the same time too much sophisticated for the price (in China) and not enough for performance and build quality (elsewhere).
@TOPPING : go back to design, R&D and production control, we all know you can -and have to- do much better ! Please get rid of your Achilles Heel !
You can have more for less with, for instance, the Kali In Series and for approximately the same price you can go for the Neumann KH 80, much better performance, flexibility, reliability and client service, brand reputation, made in EU. The choice is easy.
This Topping may be competitive in the chinese market where price is divided by more than twice, but not in North America or Europe.
It's a not only to blame on tariffs ; the fact is Topping has entered the monitor market halfway, this first attempt is at the same time too much sophisticated for the price (in China) and not enough for performance and build quality (elsewhere).
@TOPPING : go back to design, R&D and production control, we all know you can -and have to- do much better ! Please get rid of your Achilles Heel !
With all the pros and cons, I'm glad that I no longer buy ready-made speakers anyway, but design and build them myself.
But what I find admirable is the port that Topping has designed. It's a bit of a shame that it wasn't possible to take a closer look at it during the test. This is because the port seems to work exceptionally well (because it is quiet).
But what I find admirable is the port that Topping has designed. It's a bit of a shame that it wasn't possible to take a closer look at it during the test. This is because the port seems to work exceptionally well (because it is quiet).
crappypanther
Active Member
- Joined
- Jun 5, 2021
- Messages
- 108
- Likes
- 76
These speakers remind me of Iload MM. Only those are even smaller and also play down to 50 Hz. But I didn't really like them, I think these will be more serious.
