Isn't the dollar pretty strong against the Euro these days? Maybe not such a bad time for Apollon or Audiophonics for those in the US.Well, any of the purifi or Hypex based amps. If you aren't in Europe then audiophonics probably isn't going to be your "go to".
I’d also like Schiit to refrain from language on their site that so obviously disdains the principles of this one (along with Topping’s), especially as they position their inferior DAC technology as superior based on some evidence-free je ne sais quoi—I applaud them for their efforts. The 'half way across the globe' thing is going to be hard nut to crack for them. I've said it before, if I was back in Shenzhen I'd be owning this, and their other products.
In a better world, I'd like to see the full of Schiit guys (sorry, I can't help myself over their goofy name) push the limits that Topping is pusing. As it is, the latter offer good value, but it's not up to some of the standards that Topping is known for.
Keep in mind supply chain issues and world-wide inflationary pressures due in part to energy shortages and the war in Ukraine. Prices are going up on almost everything.Profiteering?
Isn't that the purpose of a business?
If their pricing model is wrong it will be adjusted or fail.
For this quality $800 is fair market.
But WE will not determine this. The market will.
I am afraid this will not happen as it is time consuming TBD properly, and Amir needs to produce many many reviews to keep the ASR going with high number of readers, contributors and supporters.
And it is not easy, I can tell you that sometimes I need several months to find out a hidden issue. Hidden issue like output stage oscillations due to fast surge from cable connected to the output ..... You never know and not everything can be simulated. You are gaining experience during the whole professional life.
Hello, I have KEF LS50 meta and Topping P5. It all depends on the size of the room. Mine is just 3x4 (12 sq. mt) and I just can't go over 2 o'clock. I'm used to loud concerts and high sound level also in my car. In a flat it will be just impossible to go over that level, my cellphone measured 85 db which is more than you need.Is it a good amp for people listening to KEF LS50s from across the room? Nope, not at all. Put those KEFs on a desk though and listen nearfield and it's fine. If you have 90dB efficient floorstanders, you can't do better. $800 is cheap enough for this level of performance I would just get two of them if I wanted a lot of power in reserve, because even in bridged operation it's STILL as good as it gets.
In the risk of being accused of OT, you reminded me my career of almost 40 years ago when we tested Tamara system in a -50 C/+50 C thermal cycling “chamber” that was able to absorb 2 10 ton trucks …..In the absence of an engineering damp heat or thermal cycling chamber
You have to be really delusional to post this... Casing like that already cost A LOT!I share wholeheartedly this sentiment.
If this was priced $499, the market would have been disrupted. All these low power talk would have been superceded by price/performance.
Lately I feel Topping is inching towards more profiteering (excuse this it's just an opinion) than being famous for disruption. Off course I don't fault that approach.
"We prefer"... "We don't believe"... Different than: Our product is superior, I think. And you know, they have something for everybody, you can buy good measuring DACs from them, for cheap. I do think that there are more scandalous things to worry about. It's a hobby, there's a market for that, I let people make their own decision, let them believe what they want. Disdain... A bit much don't you think?I’d also like Schiit to refrain from language on their site that so obviously disdains the principles of this one (along with Topping’s), especially as they position their inferior DAC technology as superior based on some evidence-free je ne sais quoi—
“All Yggdrasil versions use integrated multibit D/A converters—no delta sigma or discrete ladders here. While delta sigma designs can provide exceptional steady-state measured performance, we don’t believe they are proper to a cost-no-object DAC. And, while discrete multibit ladders are interesting, we prefer the repeatable performance of integrated DACs.”
I agree with this, and the same goes to other measurements. Some measurements would be better to group into categories, like say "Excellent", "Good", "Poor", "Awful". If there is no audible advantage between SINADs of 110 and higher, say, a SINAD of 120 should not being judged any better than one of 110. I feel this is an important next step in improving ASR (and I want to thank Amir for his stunning work).Part of me feels like as a forum people should figure out minimum SINAD required for nobody on the planet to ever hear a difference with.
The XLR/TRS connectors look pretty normal to me. Often found on pro audio gear. It's easy to find 1/4 in TS to RCA adapters if RCA is needed. Would have only cost Topping a few cents to include a pair in the box.Only complaint would be weird connectors???
My Martin Logan's at high freq hit 2 ohm. In the early days of Class D, using IcePower based amps, I could repeatedly shutdown my amps at a pretty low db level. Things have now improved in this area.I won't be home until tomorrow. I can then try to test it. For now what is the application for 2 ohm load? I have not tested one speaker that goes that low.
I see... But why not rca connectors?The XLR/TRS connectors look pretty normal to me. Often found on pro audio gear. It's easy to find 1/4 in TS to RCA adapters if RCA is needed. Would have only cost Topping a few cents to include a pair in the box.
The power is low, but (both) gain settings are low too for typical consumer rca equipped equipment. It's pretty much made for their balanced DACs... Now, do we need 3? They should have labeled low gain and very low gain.I see... But why not rca connectors?