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Topping L70 Headphone Amp Review

Rate this headphone amplifier:

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 15 4.1%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 33 9.1%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 313 86.2%

  • Total voters
    363
I was doubting it as well but ground lift doesn't help, L70 has the switch to eliminate it on the back. The buzz changes the channel when I change the cables from left to right and vice versa. It's also present when I disconnect the dac (E30II Lite). It disappears when I shut down the L70 but leave the power amp on. Hard to believe the reason would be anywhere else than in the L70. All the equipment are connected to the same power strip.
I also own both the L70 and A70 Pro. I measured both using my E1DA Cosmos stack. Except for the fancier display (and higher output power I won't need) of the A70 Pro, there's nothing I prefer less about the L70 to the A70 Pro. I also love its relatively small form factor for its output power.

Sometimes it's not easy to troubleshoot noise issues. But it is also likely that you have a defective unit. Have you replaced the L70 with another preamp in the same setup?
 
I was doubting it as well but ground lift doesn't help, L70 has the switch to eliminate it on the back. The buzz changes the channel when I change the cables from left to right and vice versa. It's also present when I disconnect the dac (E30II Lite). It disappears when I shut down the L70 but leave the power amp on. Hard to believe the reason would be anywhere else than in the L70. All the equipment are connected to the same power strip.
Disconnect everything and use headphones to narrow your elimination circle
 
Hp outputs are clean - no buzzing whatsoever. It is only in the line-out right channel and only via the XLR output.
That is strange. I just remeasured both the L70 and A70 Pro's XLR line outputs at volume knob levels from -0 to -10 dB. Both preamps are extremely transparent for either channel.

Here are my L70's XLR L/R lineouts' 1 kHz sinusoid FFTs @ -10 dB volume setting:
L70_L_XLR_Line_-10dB.pngL70_R_XLR_Line_-10dB.png

It only contains slight harmonic products, most of which (higher-order ones, in particular) are from the DAC---Topping D50 III---used as a signal generator. Essentially, my L70 adds little to no THD+N to the DAC output.
 
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That is strange. I just remeasured both the L70 and A70 Pro's XLR line outputs at volume knob levels from -0 to -10 dB. Both preamps are extremely transparent for either channel.

Here are my L70's XLR L/R lineouts' 1 kHz sinusoid FFTs @ -10 dB volume setting:
View attachment 447425View attachment 447426

It only contains slight harmonic products, most of which (higher-order ones, in particular) are from the DAC---Topping D50 III---used as a signal generator. Essentially, my L70 adds little to no THD+N to the DAC output.

Strange indeed but then again products can be defective. Unfortunately that's what I got.

Going to return the L70 and get something else instead, maybe I'll replace it with Audiophonics AP310-Preamp as I really do not need HP outputs.
 
Strange indeed but then again products can be defective. Unfortunately that's what I got.

Going to return the L70 and get something else instead, maybe I'll replace it with Audiophonics AP310-Preamp as I really do not need HP outputs.
hasty conclusion after one copy. Exchange L70 for another L70, you will know if you were unlucky or if your audio track has a problem. You can also return the second L70 even if it is technically efficient. I give more percentage for problems with your audio track, L70 is a very nice device in terms of quality to price ratio, It is worth giving L70 a second chance. Return the first one without giving a reason to one seller, buy another L70 device from another seller, at most you will also return it without giving a reason from the right..
 
hasty conclusion after one copy. Exchange L70 for another L70, you will know if you were unlucky or if your audio track has a problem. You can also return the second L70 even if it is technically efficient. I give more percentage for problems with your audio track, L70 is a very nice device in terms of quality to price ratio, It is worth giving L70 a second chance. Return the first one without giving a reason to one seller, buy another L70 device from another seller, at most you will also return it without giving a reason from the right..

I am not quite sure what you mean by "audio track", signal chain perhaps? Maybe I was not clear enough in my previous posts, I'm sorry for that. Anyway, I'll try to summarise what I've tried and why I think I have a faulty unit:

* The buzzing can be heard when there's no input signal to the L70 but it is powered on and connected to a power amp via XLR cables.
* The power amp I'm using is an Audiophonics MPA-S250NC, and there's no buzzing when I disconnect L70 from the amp but leave the amp powered on so it is not the source of the problem.
* There's no buzz either when connecting the dac I'm using in that particular set atm (a Topping E30II lite) directly to the power amp with rca-to-XLR cables nor when I connect the preamp of and old NAD c720bee to the power amp.
* Now I've also tried different interconnects, different speakers (Elac FS217, Magnat Quantum 757, Dali Concept 6), different speaker cables and even different power outlet. The problem persist whenever L70 is in the signal chain and disappears when it is either turned off or replaced with a different device, as stated before. Ground lift doesn't help either.

Anyhow, I am not motivated enough to buy another one and go through all the hassle. I'll just get something else instead and probably return the one I bought. It's not a big deal after all, just a piece of equipment altough a nice one, especially considering the looks, price and the performance. I think I've not made a hasty conclusion considering everything I've tried. Moreover, the remote volume control of L70 is frustrating and I want something that acts faster and smoother. The AP 310 preamp ticks all the boxer for me atm.

Thanks for the advices everyone, my L70 is getting a comfy ride back to the shop I bought it from. :)

edit: a couple of typos
 
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I got an r3 error when I wanted to check the firmware version and the usb cable was not appropriate (probably only charging and no data transmission). I bought it recently and it had firmware version 1.15 installed.
 
Hmm, I thought 1.14 was the newest firmware, it seems to be the only version you can download from Topping.
 
Hmm, I thought 1.14 was the newest firmware, it seems to be the only version you can download from Topping.
Strange but true. In this thread 1.15 was already mentioned in March of this year. It’s unclear what the changes in this version are and why it’s not available for download yet. My (first) dedicated HPA L70 is still on 1.14 (bought it in 2024); this one is a dedicated Pre-amp.
 
Strange but true. In this thread 1.15 was already mentioned in March of this year. It’s unclear what the changes in this version are and why it’s not available for download yet. My (first) dedicated HPA L70 is still on 1.14 (bought it in 2024); this one is a dedicated Pre-amp.
I also saw VER115.TXT, so I sent an email to Topping and received the following response:

Don’t worry, version V1.15 is also an official release. It only fixes a minor display error, so you can use it with confidence. ^.^
 
Don’t worry, version V1.15 is also an official release. It only fixes a minor display error, so you can use it with confidence
An official release not being released is quite a stretch
 
Can anyone provide clarification on this?

SNR@50mV
ASR --------------------- L50 ( 95 dB) > L70 (93 dB)
L7Auidolab-------------- L70 ( 97 dB) > L50 (95 dB)


Variations by unit?
 
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Can anyone provide clarification on this?

SNR@50mV
ASR --------------------- L50 ( 95 dB) > L70 (93 dB)
L7Auidolab-------------- L70 ( 97 dB) > L50 (95 dB)


Variations by unit?
Different devices, different measuring instruments, different people performing the measurements, different deviations, different contact resistances of the measuring cables, etc.
This is still within the range of measurement inaccuracy and other deviations.

The L70 on ASR was also closer to 93.5-93.7.

But you do realize that these differences are completely inaudible? And that you would have absolutely no chance of distinguishing them by ear?
 
The L70 on ASR was also closer to 93.5-93.7.
it's 92.987 - 93.015 https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...plifier-snr-balanced-measurements-png.247905/

But you do realize that these differences are completely inaudible?
It's different topic.

Different devices, different measuring instruments, different people performing the measurements, different deviations, different contact resistances of the measuring cables, etc.
This is still within the range of measurement inaccuracy and other deviations.
Pretty in line with chatgpt answer:
Great question — and this is a perfect example of why measurements can vary between reputable sources like ASR (Audio Science Review) and L7Audiolab, even when testing the same device.
Here's how to explain the SNR@50mV discrepancies between L50 and L70:

What the numbers say

SourceL50 (SNR @ 50mV)L70 (SNR @ 50mV)
ASR95 dB93 dB
L7Audiolab95 dB97 dB
So ASR says L50 > L70, while L7Audiolab says L70 > L50 — why?

Why these differences happen

1. Measurement Methodology

  • Different analyzers: ASR uses Audio Precision APx555, as does L7Audiolab — but exact test procedures and setup may vary slightly (calibration, filtering, grounding).
  • Bandwidth filtering: Some measurements may apply A-weighting filters, others may not, which can easily cause ±1–3 dB differences in low-level SNR tests.
  • Volume setting / gain mode: Even a slight variation in volume control level affects noise floor, especially at 50 mV where amplifier gain can be high.
  • Channel tested: Some devices have slightly better Ch1 or Ch2 performance; some reviewers average them, others report the worst.

2. Device Sample Variation

  • Unit-to-unit variance is real, even for Topping gear. SNR differences of 1–2 dB between production samples are entirely normal.
  • If ASR and L7 measured different units, they could show reversed results.

3. Environmental Noise

  • Electromagnetic or USB power noise in the lab environment can pollute low-level SNR readings, especially at 50 mV output.
  • L7Audiolab often uses LNA (Low Noise Adapter) for precision low-level measurements, which can give more favorable SNR numbers than standard APx555 setup.

What does it mean in practice?

  • Both the L50 and L70 have excellent low-level SNR — anything over 90 dB @ 50 mV is already far beyond human audibility.
  • A 2–4 dB swing in these SNR readings is not meaningful for real-world listening, especially with transparent DACs and low-noise sources.
  • In real use with IEMs, both amps are dead silent unless you use ultra-sensitive BA IEMs — and even then, hiss is unlikely.

✅ Summary​

Reason for differenceExplanation
Test setup variationsFilters, gain levels, cables, analyzer settings differ
Sample differencesSlight performance variance across units
Environment / groundingLab noise and interference can skew low-signal readings
Analyzer precisionL7 may use LNA adapter, ASR may not
So while L7Audiolab shows L70 slightly better than L50, and ASR shows the opposite, both are within margin of error and should be considered functionally equivalent at 50 mV for most practical listening.
 
Can anyone provide clarification on this?

SNR@50mV
ASR --------------------- L50 ( 95 dB) > L70 (93 dB)
L7Auidolab-------------- L70 ( 97 dB) > L50 (95 dB)


Variations by unit?
L7 uses the APx555's high performance mode whereas Amir doesn't for consistency reasons.

No matter which DUT, if measured by L7 you'll often see 2dB less noise than on ASR.

So the reason is not DUT unit variation, but differences in measurement setup.
 
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