The DAC only version is just over a thousand, has balanced outputs, PEQ and other useful features. If I was using it professionally, I know which one I'd buy.
You could definitely do that. This is basically what I did with my DX7I'm referring to adding the L30ii to an existing ADI-2 DAC FS instead of buying a whole new unit I guess was my point.
So, I would be seeing more voltage and power at a given ohm rating. Both leading to perceived loudness. Guess it all goes back to the age old question, would I hear a difference? Since the L30 can drive the XS and 6XX to sufficient levels, what more Chan the L30 II do? Some smarter than me I am sure could tell me.@ngs428 here are the graphs:
View attachment 221086 View attachment 221090 View attachment 221088
Whether this is worth selling your L30 and getting the new one is up to you
Imo and ime, no. More headroom does not increase sound quality, just the potential for sound quantity.Guess it all goes back to the age old question, would I hear a difference?
Topping frequently send out prototypes and retail units to reviewers like Amir and WolfX-700 before the official release, so that reviews can go live simultaneously.Device sent for review and available in the market are the same?
I’m with you on this one. The “slam” people probably also think the cables make a difference.Imo and ime, no. More headroom does not increase sound quality, just the potential for sound quantity.
Others will argue that an overkill Amp will increase "slam", "control", "impact" and all that good stuff.
I don't believe them and don't think those claiming did proper level-matching, and so they're just talking about equal loudness contours in the end.
Nothing really. It would just be louder at the same volume position if it has more power. Otherwise at the same level of volume it should be exactly the same. However if you typically use very efficient headphones and have the volume level very low then it could improve overall Sound Stage and Dynamics by having better matched volume when you use the IEM negative gain mode. Since typically pots have poor Channel matching at very low volumes.So, I would be seeing more voltage and power at a given ohm rating. Both leading to perceived loudness. Guess it all goes back to the age old question, would I hear a difference? Since the L30 can drive the XS and 6XX to sufficient levels, what more Chan the L30 II do? Some smarter than me I am sure could tell me.
Well the thing is that the definition of Drive is different for different people. You may be able to plug a high-end headphone into a phone or MP3 player and you will still hear sound. However there will be a lack of Bases and sometimes the mid-range will also be compromised.Imo and ime, no. More headroom does not increase sound quality, just the potential for sound quantity.
Others will argue that an overkill Amp will increase "slam", "control", "impact" and all that good stuff.
I don't believe them and don't think those claiming did proper level-matching, and so they're just talking about equal loudness contours in the end.
Channel and balance is just a thing with cheaper pots. I think that the l30 Mark II is basically just to fix those problems by introducing this negative game mode. This should allow you to turn the volume up much higher on sensitive headphones and out of the territory of massive Channel imbalance.My experience with the Topping L30 was fine. I was one of the "day one" buyers and gotten the bad apple. HifiGo gladly replaced my L30 with a fixed one. As I used the L30 for longer, I started to dislike. The sound was very clean and the power was great but there was a glaring problem, channel imbalance. My unit suffered from channel imbalance at low volume levels, even when used as a preamp. When my Sansui 2000A's preamp went "mono", I used this a preamp and I dreaded those months, sure it sounded cleaner but that channel imbalance was just annoying.
My guess is that they are just testing the waters in this market. After all I imagine that this Market is much smaller while simultaneously being more saturated. For example of myself and all of my audiophile friends; I don't know a single person with a proper stereo system. We do have a guy in our telegram group who has a stereo system but we have never physically met him.Topping has several devices with a preamplifier in its range.
Question: why hasn't he released a full-fledged power amplifier (without volume control) until now?
Huh... Not the world I live in whatsoever.My guess is that they are just testing the waters in this market. After all I imagine that this Market is much smaller while simultaneously being more saturated. For example of myself and all of my audiophile friends; I don't know a single person with a proper stereo system. We do have a guy in our telegram group who has a stereo system but we have never physically met him.
All of us have bluetooth speakers or other smart speakers just for convenience purposes. I think that dedicated listening rooms and home theater systems are too much of a luxury today and as such the market is small.
However you see topping has added ldac to most of its devices because bluetooth listening is very important for the modern user. Especially in a world where people increasingly only have phones.
I'm speaking about the younger people in this scene. Many people younger than me (I'm almost 32) are not even into audio these days and only care about airpods. Most people listen to BT speakers all the time... so the idea of high end cabled audio is going away. However for the younger population; space is a real issue. Buying homes is near impossible for most young people and if they are able to afford a home, it is likely a small one. Luxury items like speaker systems, just won't be something you find in younger peoples homes.Huh... Not the world I live in whatsoever.
Yeah. I plan to buy dc stealth in 2-3 months. Plan was to spend ~$500 for amp/dac. And now with l30/e30 it's just $300. What times to be aliveDefinitely. You would actually get top tier performance for your money.
And later on if some $500 device came out even with slightly better performance it would not be audible because we have already reached past the audible threshold for most things. I have a feeling that in another year or so we are going to need some new measurements of differentiation. Since we are basically heading the limits of the analyzer already today. Who knows what will come out by the end of the year.
Definitely agree here. Sonic Perfection is cheaper than it has ever been before. However if you are going to buy the stealth I would personally buy a different setup other than the l30 and E30 just because of the lack of a screen which is annoying with high-res content. And the potential for channel Miss match with a cheaper potentiometer.Yeah. I plan to buy dc stealth in 2-3 months. Plan was to spend ~$500 for amp/dac. And now with l30/e30 it's just $300. What times to be aliveLast time I was watching other reviewers than Amir I heard Joshua Valour complaining that all these topping and smsl devices sound the same, so he will not review them
Yes you idiot, transparent devices sound the same. That's the whole point
what I'm saying is that people like him will always be able to create a snake oil market. We on the other hand should expect and be enthusiastic about sonic perfection getting cheaper and cheaper.