Buckchester
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Has anyone done a listening test between this and the Zero 2? I bought the Zero Red and liked it a lot. Then I bought the Zero 2 and like it even more. Curious about these now.
I also have the Zero 2 and like it a lot. I haven't heard the Hane, but seriously doubt that there will be any relevant benefit from it, the treble is even more uneven. And when you really like the switches, why not use proper EQ instead and adjust as you like?Has anyone done a listening test between this and the Zero 2? I bought the Zero Red and liked it a lot. Then I bought the Zero 2 and like it even more. Curious about these now.
Well, attributing absolute significance to system variability artifacts is tantamount to believing in magic, so I'm afraid I must disagree.I just don’t believe in magic.
This peak is no artifact, it is on all different measurements I have seen so far, done by many different people and all kind of different measurement rigs. Believe what you want, but please don't deny facts.Well, attributing absolute significance to system variability artifacts is tantamount to believing in magic, so I'm afraid I must disagree.
This question has been responded before in this thread.. Not every device has customisable EQ functionality.And when you really like the switches, why not use proper EQ instead and adjust as you like?
On top of that, I'd bet it also shifts as a function of how deeply you insert the earpieces. With clunkier IEMs like the Zero 2 I know I don't insert them the same every time.The point is, such a high treble peak cannot be equalized very easily, if at all. First, it will appear at different frequencies for each individual, but even if you localize it exactly, since it is quiet steep and narrow, EQ doesn’t work very good. There are many IEMs with smoother treble, even much cheaper ones, so why bother with this one?
The knowledge is that a measured FR with zero divergent features isn't guaranteed to be better than an FR with upper treble peak features. Some upper treble peaking features can "magically" disappear and reappear depending on the measurement rig, the operator, and the type of ear tips used. I have to conclude that you are biased for delving deep into FR analysis without considering these variables. It should make any critical evaluation of the upper treble pointless without the proper context of fitted evaluation.
So besides the measurements we even have personal evidence of the treble peak.I purchased the Hane because amirm's subjective evaluation was quite positive. The sound quality feels excellent to me. The bass is solid and clear. The treble exhibits a noticeable peak above 10kHz, making it sound a bit bright. However, this earphone provides a sense of spatial openness, which might be attributed to this peak. By turning on switches 3 and 4 to reduce the 3-7kHz range and soften the brightness, the treble becomes more balanced and better suits my preference. With switches 2 through 4 turned on, the sound quality perfectly matches my taste, so I don’t feel the need to use electronic EQ. This was especially nice for me since there are applications where EQ cannot be used on smartphones. While the low sensitivity is a concern, I can achieve loud playback using the Fosi DS2
Not quite, there are statements that attribute property X to the peak as seen in the frequency amplitude response graphs. The peak has been dicussed many times before. One cannot exclude that the attribution of X is a steadfast prejudice replicated.So besides the measurements we even have personal evidence of the treble peak.
Unlikely they will repeat anymoreThis is all getting pretty repetitive.
@Angenor
Sure, a treble peak in the measurement can be a deal breaker in real use, but we won't know for sure until we try.
Sure, there are other, potentially better options, but we won't know until we compare for ourselves.
What about fit and comfort? We won't know until we compare for ourselves. The best-measuring IEM means nothing if it doesn't fit my ear.
Angenor, you find your IEM. Honestly, that's great!
Now let others find theirs.
2V (standard) output for most dongles might not be enough voltage, depending on linearity behaviour of the Z on those IEMs.
I own Meeaudio's P1 where Ohm is "only" 50 and can't get it real loud paired with Fiio Q1. 2V on that 50 Ohm IEM is just a joke. No spark, no emotion. It's not only about loudness.
impedance is only half of what you need to look at. You have to look at sensitivity also. If it’s listed /mw then impedance is relevant, if it’s listed /V then it’s not. Hane has a sensitivity of 115 db/V, which means that you can forget about impedance and observe that it literally gives you 115 db with 1 V. Given that you don’t want to go over 115 db (which is already very high) you just need 1 V or even less, which is covered by pretty much all the adaptors (2V) and even the majority of phones I suppose. So, you see, it’s super easy to drive, but at the same time it’s not that easily affected by hiss or background noise like other super sensitive IEMs.2V (standard) output for most dongles might not be enough voltage, depending on linearity behaviour of the Z on those IEMs.
I own Meeaudio's P1 where Ohm is "only" 50 and can't get it real loud paired with Fiio Q1. 2V on that 50 Ohm IEM is just a joke. No spark, no emotion. It's not only about loudness.
Yes, it is . Or simply headphone jack .is that how you refer to it in english?).
Excellent, the best i've personally come across in the IEM world.What about fit and comfort?
Excellent, the best i've personally come across in the IEM world.
Very lightweight shell, suitable for small ear canals.
-1 Point for the default cable, but not a big heal honestly.
Yeah seal with the IE series can be tricky, especially with their pressure easing design (the hole in the nozzle which may not be airtight with certain- including stock- ear tips). The good thing is that you should be able to get a decent resale value out of the IE600 since that model is in high demandGlad it works for you. It's hard to judge from pictures or videos how the fit will be in my case and for other people without trying.
I'm not really an IEM enjoyer, it's more of a necessary evil for me while at the office. However, with the IEM market having a renaissance, I thought I might try something new. Currently, I use Sennheiser IE600. I bought them particularly because they are small, so there is no chance they won't fit. Unfortunately, they don't seal with the stock tips, and the textured metal finish doesn't agree with my skin - especially where the plastic nozzle ends and the metal begins.
Hane is a contender for sure.